Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 17:28     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.


I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.


Hillary was not well liked - even by democrats. How about you start with a charismatic candidate?


Same old same old. You guys always say female candidate are not charismatic enough, not likable enough.

But Trump is likable? What is wrong with this country IS that people find someone like Trump likable. That is majorly F-d up.


Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 17:00     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Elon Musk is a genius. I'm sure he has the technical savvy to rig the votes. But he wouldn't do that, would he? Cheat? Spread lies?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 16:11     Subject: Re:Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

No. As the VP of an unpopular president you are running on that record.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 16:08     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:I knew in August that she would lose. That is when I visited my Dad in Bucks County PA, and passed a lot of Trump signs and only 1 Harris sign. Bucks was crucial in the 2020 election. I knew deep down then that she wasn't winning.

On a personal level, I was much less enthusiastic about Kamala than I was about Hillary. I am a moderate Democrat and figured if I am less enthused about Kamala, then Independents or moderate Republicans are probably less enthused about her too. If Hillary couldn't win, then I didn't expect Kamala to do so.

Kamala is seen as left of Biden and Hillary. Her pick of Tim Walz didn't help moderate her canidacy. She needed a strong, white, moderate male with name recognition. I think Mark Kelly would have been a much better pick. I had never heard of Tim Walz before she picked him. While he seems like a nice, next-door neighbor type of guy, he did not instill strength or confidence as the second in command.

I voted for them but not enthusiastically. As someone who has never voted for a Republican for President, I knew if I wasn't enthusiastic, I knew those to the right of me politically weren't going to be.





Actually, what she needed was another strong woman or a Blac man. To me, it was so hypocritical that they wanted the first woman in the White House but decided the only way to do it was to get a seemingly manly man by her side. White, gun-toting, hunting, football coach. Big strong man. It was so transparent and so stupid.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 16:03     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think that she stood a chance, but there were so many DCUM posts leaning in to the BRAT mystique, the celebrity endorsements, and random posts on TikTok, that I started to doubt myself.





One of the interesting things for me is that I called the election for Trump months ago (in that I told people IRL to prepare for a Trump presidency, I am a Harris voter), but became less sure in my conviction as the election drew closer and I started reading the Politics forum more often to keep up. I should have trusted my gut. I also called Biden 2020 and Trump 2016 months ahead of time. I’ve been right for every election since Clinton. But I started to waver in my confidence after reading this forum a lot more.

Lesson learned, don’t let DCUM influence your thought.


+100
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 15:30     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.


I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.


Hillary was not well liked - even by democrats. How about you start with a charismatic candidate?


Same old same old. You guys always say female candidate are not charismatic enough, not likable enough.

But Trump is likable? What is wrong with this country IS that people find someone like Trump likable. That is majorly F-d up.


People like his candor and they find him very funny. They loved that stunt of him in the McDonalds window. Hillary or Kamala wouldn't be caught dead talking to regular Americans. They prefer the fundraising circuit, celebrity talk shows and hobnobbing with the rich. People can smell an elitist. John Kerry had the same problem vs. W.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 15:16     Subject: Re:Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Yes, I did. I didn’t realize the ignorance of so many Americans. I am not saying stupid, ignorant as in uninformed of facts.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 15:07     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.


I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.


Hillary was not well liked - even by democrats. How about you start with a charismatic candidate?
Yes she earned more of the popular vote than Trump.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:17     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Before Biden dropped out, no, I did not think she could win because she has the same unlikability that Clinton did. Then her campaign really took off and Trump seemed to be faltering, so I thought maybe she could do it. I personally can't imagine supporting Trump, so it's hard for me to understand that other people do.


Her campaign never took off. His never faltered. It was all media spin and the echo chamber.

I thought they were two terrible candidates and an embarrassment that they were the best our country could put forth for an election. I voted for Trump because I feel he’s the better choice to lead the country, after experiencing both already. The election results were not a surprise at all. I went to bed early on Tuesday.


So here ya go. His "never faltered". He's "a better choice to lead the country."

You must have missed pretty much every word (aka lie) that came out of Trump's mouth during this election cycle.

Exhibit A of how this election was about one thing and one thing only, the total ignorance and apathy of American voters.


Exhibit A of how people prevaricate, aka lie

Total ignorance and apathy are two things, not "one thing only."

If there was total apathy, why were there so many votes cast? Apathetic people would not bother to voter.

Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:12     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.


I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.


Hillary was not well liked - even by democrats. How about you start with a charismatic candidate?


Same old same old. You guys always say female candidate are not charismatic enough, not likable enough.

But Trump is likable? What is wrong with this country IS that people find someone like Trump likable. That is majorly F-d up.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:08     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.


I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.


Hillary was not well liked - even by democrats. How about you start with a charismatic candidate?



And everyone knows that only men have charisma or so the US seems to think.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:08     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t think that she stood a chance, but there were so many DCUM posts leaning in to the BRAT mystique, the celebrity endorsements, and random posts on TikTok, that I started to doubt myself.





One of the interesting things for me is that I called the election for Trump months ago (in that I told people IRL to prepare for a Trump presidency, I am a Harris voter), but became less sure in my conviction as the election drew closer and I started reading the Politics forum more often to keep up. I should have trusted my gut. I also called Biden 2020 and Trump 2016 months ahead of time. I’ve been right for every election since Clinton. But I started to waver in my confidence after reading this forum a lot more.

Lesson learned, don’t let DCUM influence your thought.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:02     Subject: Re:Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

I was terrified that she would win after what happened in 2020.

Glad it seems like the election judges got their acts (mostly) together in 2024.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 14:01     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

I didn’t think that she stood a chance, but there were so many DCUM posts leaning in to the BRAT mystique, the celebrity endorsements, and random posts on TikTok, that I started to doubt myself.



Anonymous
Post 11/09/2024 11:15     Subject: Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

Compared to Trump, yes, I really thought she would win.