Anonymous wrote:Top way to boost efficiency: mandate RTO so that the government has to spend billions more on office space, etc. Brilliant.

Well in their minds, that will force feds to quit so no need for extra office space.

If you read the comments to Vivek’s posts on X, there is such extreme hatred toward federal workers. It’s really sad and we are going to be targets in this new Admin. I know DOGE is fake but I am worried.

Anonymous wrote:Elon will goes to Mars before the courts are finished litigating all the DOGE nonsense.

Nothing needs to be litigated about a President formally saying that they will be looking for recommendations from a private group.

Anonymous wrote:Top way to boost efficiency: mandate RTO so that the government has to spend billions more on office space, etc. Brilliant.

The bolded is not what will happen. At all.

This Musk thing is a terrible idea, as is a stark RTO mandate, but let's be clear on what it actually is and isn't:

1. DOGE is a set of private advisors, just like the thinktanks like Heritage that have been and will continue advising.
2. DOGE is not "wasteful" in the way that matters, because government funds will not be spent. It will be Musk-funded, so no tax-payer dollars.
3. No need for Congress to weigh in or approve DOGE in any way.
4. If they make recommendations before midterms, many of them will be approved by Congress. Some of them will not require Congressional approval. The executive branch has rule-making authority and many many "compliance" related requirements are rules or EOs.
4. Blanket RTO will cost little to no money in real estate because people will be crammed in to existing buildings. GSA has vacant buildings, they will reshuffle who goes where at no additional cost.
5. Executive agencies absolutely can spend less than their annual appropriation in personnel. It has happened before, many times. It is not illegal.
6. Sure a lot of this will be litigated, but injunctions will be minimal.
7. The unions will be of very little help, though I am sure they will try. Complying during grievance/arbitration/litigation is required in almost all instances. Thee are loopholes all over the language in CBAs. And the FLRA will be stacked in the Administration's favor.

Should this happen? Absolutely not.
Will it happen? Absolutely yes.

Top way to boost efficiency: mandate RTO so that the government has to spend billions more on office space, etc. Brilliant.

Vivek is one of those nerdy pretentious debate team weirdos that everyone had in high school, who never had many friends or went on dates. Has a real chip on his shoulder, and this is his revenge for being ignored by all the girls in HS.

He’s all talk. Trump has his priorities, and randomly cutting 0.0001 pct of the federal budget just to soothe Vivek’s ego ain’t one of them.

Elon will goes to Mars before the courts are finished litigating all the DOGE nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

Ramaswamy pledged to fire 75% of federal employees; dismantle civil service protections, making federal employment at-will; and abolish at least five federal agencies, including the Education Department, FBI, ATF, IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and USDA's Food and Nutrition Service. He asserted that the president has the unilateral power to abolish agencies by executive order, although executive agencies and departments are created by statute, and under the Constitution, Congress has the power of the purse. He called for an eight-year term for all government employees and pledged to revoke Executive Order 10988, an order issued by President John F. Kennedy that gives federal employees the right to collectively bargain.

If Trump wanted to give Ramaswamy and Musk real power he would have given them actual appointments, not a position in a made-up agency with a joke for a name.

Trump hasn’t named his AG yet, but all of the names that have been floated are serious candidates. Do you think Mike Lee or John Ratcliffe are going to allow Vivek and Elon to tell them they have to fire 50% of DOJ’s law enforcement personnel? Come on.

Well, I’ve also seen Matt Whitaker mentioned as AG (toilet bowl salesman guy who was his last AG for a hot minute and a hack) so who knows

And he announced a Fox News host for DOD

Vivek makes me crazy, he’s not a stupid guy but the arrogance… a close analysis to look for opportunities to increase efficiencies in govt, fabulous but unilaterally cutting 75 percent of employees! He has no idea what govt does.

Whitaker was USA for the Southern District of Iowa under GWB. He’s also not going to take orders from Vivek about staffing his law enforcement agencies.

I find Vivek incredibly irritating, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

Ramaswamy pledged to fire 75% of federal employees; dismantle civil service protections, making federal employment at-will; and abolish at least five federal agencies, including the Education Department, FBI, ATF, IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and USDA's Food and Nutrition Service. He asserted that the president has the unilateral power to abolish agencies by executive order, although executive agencies and departments are created by statute, and under the Constitution, Congress has the power of the purse. He called for an eight-year term for all government employees and pledged to revoke Executive Order 10988, an order issued by President John F. Kennedy that gives federal employees the right to collectively bargain.

If Trump wanted to give Ramaswamy and Musk real power he would have given them actual appointments, not a position in a made-up agency with a joke for a name.

Trump hasn’t named his AG yet, but all of the names that have been floated are serious candidates. Do you think Mike Lee or John Ratcliffe are going to allow Vivek and Elon to tell them they have to fire 50% of DOJ’s law enforcement personnel? Come on.

Well, I’ve also seen Matt Whitaker mentioned as AG (toilet bowl salesman guy who was his last AG for a hot minute and a hack) so who knows

And he announced a Fox News host for DOD

Vivek makes me crazy, he’s not a stupid guy but the arrogance… a close analysis to look for opportunities to increase efficiencies in govt, fabulous but unilaterally cutting 75 percent of employees! He has no idea what govt does.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

Ramaswamy pledged to fire 75% of federal employees; dismantle civil service protections, making federal employment at-will; and abolish at least five federal agencies, including the Education Department, FBI, ATF, IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and USDA's Food and Nutrition Service. He asserted that the president has the unilateral power to abolish agencies by executive order, although executive agencies and departments are created by statute, and under the Constitution, Congress has the power of the purse. He called for an eight-year term for all government employees and pledged to revoke Executive Order 10988, an order issued by President John F. Kennedy that gives federal employees the right to collectively bargain.

If Trump wanted to give Ramaswamy and Musk real power he would have given them actual appointments, not a position in a made-up agency with a joke for a name.

Trump hasn’t named his AG yet, but all of the names that have been floated are serious candidates. Do you think Mike Lee or John Ratcliffe are going to allow Vivek and Elon to tell them they have to fire 50% of DOJ’s law enforcement personnel? Come on.

Doesn’t DOGE need an appropriation? How will it be funded otherwise? These people are such morons. Creating a new federally agency to combat federal spending.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

How do I apply, and do they accept remote workers?

Haha no silly. DOGE is going to need to find physical space to house its staff, but that’s not wasteful at all is it?

Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

Ramaswamy pledged to fire 75% of federal employees; dismantle civil service protections, making federal employment at-will; and abolish at least five federal agencies, including the Education Department, FBI, ATF, IRS, Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and USDA's Food and Nutrition Service. He asserted that the president has the unilateral power to abolish agencies by executive order, although executive agencies and departments are created by statute, and under the Constitution, Congress has the power of the purse. He called for an eight-year term for all government employees and pledged to revoke Executive Order 10988, an order issued by President John F. Kennedy that gives federal employees the right to collectively bargain.

Anonymous wrote:For the “DOGE” to have any actual powers, Congress would need to pass a law, with 60 votes in the Senate. Otherwise its only powers are advising Trump, like the other WH offices.

It’s cute that we still think the filibuster will survive. Dear leader doesn’t like it, so it will be removed.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and Vivek will run the Dept. of Efficiency. They plan identify the waste and inefficiencies and get the cuts to budgets approved by congress which will be republican within 1st yr.

Also noted the work will be done by July 2026 - 18 months. The “they can’t get it done in 4 years” chatter is clearly wishful thinking.

The fact that you believe that all this can be done in 18 months is hilarious.