Anonymous
10/26/2024 07:46
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.
Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.
Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.
You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.
Well no one is making *you* specifically do it.
But if you are the only hospital for hundreds of miles, you need to make sure someone on your staff will prioritize the life of a pregnant woman over whatever qualms you have about hastening the end of the dying fetus inside her. That seems like a reasonable demand of any hospital especially if it is taking state and government funds and the people living near it have no other choice. Then you need to provide the service one way or another.
Reality check: Catholic hospitals will close rather than be forced to do something against Catholic teachings, regardless of whether the next closest hospital is 500 miles away.
Reality Check: Catholic Hospitals make money. They push millions of dollars to their executives. They will not close.
DP. You are wrong.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 07:34
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I suppose that describes me - I'm voting on the combination of abortion rights and not electing the guy who admires Hitler.
There are one or two Trump voting women on here who are going to be gently whipsawed from the start of your post to the end.
I'm not a Trump voter, but I do agree with the criticism of women voting for the single issue, which they interpret based on narrow and uninformed perspectives of the issue. Meanwhile, they disregard the rights and health of thousands of children being mutilated, the co-opting of opportunities and the rights of women by transwomen, and surging crime in our country that threatens all of us. I think many on the left are completely oblivious to just how much the transgender issues are pushing people away from their side. Because few on the left will say out loud just how disturbing it is.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 07:23
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:I suppose that describes me - I'm voting on the combination of abortion rights and not electing the guy who admires Hitler.
There are one or two Trump voting women on here who are going to be gently whipsawed from the start of your post to the end.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 05:51
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.
Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.
Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.
You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.
Well no one is making *you* specifically do it.
But if you are the only hospital for hundreds of miles, you need to make sure someone on your staff will prioritize the life of a pregnant woman over whatever qualms you have about hastening the end of the dying fetus inside her. That seems like a reasonable demand of any hospital especially if it is taking state and government funds and the people living near it have no other choice. Then you need to provide the service one way or another.
Reality check: Catholic hospitals will close rather than be forced to do something against Catholic teachings, regardless of whether the next closest hospital is 500 miles away.
Reality Check: Catholic Hospitals make money. They push millions of dollars to their executives. They will not close.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 05:47
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
I suppose that describes me - I'm voting on the combination of abortion rights and not electing the guy who admires Hitler.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 05:08
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.
Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.
Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.
You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.
Well no one is making *you* specifically do it.
But if you are the only hospital for hundreds of miles, you need to make sure someone on your staff will prioritize the life of a pregnant woman over whatever qualms you have about hastening the end of the dying fetus inside her. That seems like a reasonable demand of any hospital especially if it is taking state and government funds and the people living near it have no other choice. Then you need to provide the service one way or another.
Reality check: Catholic hospitals will close rather than be forced to do something against Catholic teachings, regardless of whether the next closest hospital is 500 miles away.
Most OBGYNs at Catholic medical entities are not insanely dogmatic about contraceptives or abortion. They subtly refer their patients to another provider or facility.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 01:12
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Harris said no religious exceptions. She wants to force Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions.
Good. In some places, the only hospital is unfortunately a Catholic hospital. And now that the conservatives have gotten rid of any abortion clinics, it is what it is.
Just because you are Catholic, doesn't mean the rest of us are. Leave us alone, give us a choice, and you can do what you want.
You say we can do what we want, but we do not want to kill babies.
Well no one is making *you* specifically do it.
But if you are the only hospital for hundreds of miles, you need to make sure someone on your staff will prioritize the life of a pregnant woman over whatever qualms you have about hastening the end of the dying fetus inside her. That seems like a reasonable demand of any hospital especially if it is taking state and government funds and the people living near it have no other choice. Then you need to provide the service one way or another.
Reality check: Catholic hospitals will close rather than be forced to do something against Catholic teachings, regardless of whether the next closest hospital is 500 miles away.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:52
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:
It's heartbreaking. It's like Trump has unleashed a meanness in the Republican party and made it ok to have not have any empathy for fellow Americans who have to bear the personal cost as humans to your political policies.
My niece was at Harris' Houston rally today. She said it was electric and the crowd was energized. She saw Collin Allred and Beyonce. But the speaker who really brought her to tears was a woman who got sepsis because of Trump-Abbott's cruel policies where she couldn't get medical care and it almost cost her life. She contacted sepsis and almost died after being made to carry a stillborn child, her lung collapsed and she has a huge scar down her body. She wanted her baby to live but was still not allowed to get care earlier that could have prevented her from becoming infected with sepsis internally in her lungs, abdomen ... just a brutal story.
I have a daughter and I don't want her life and rights to be worse than what I had. I can't stand this. Please vote for Harris. She has empathy and she will try where Trump is just determined to be corrupt and enrich himself.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:46
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
It's heartbreaking. It's like Trump has unleashed a meanness in the Republican party and made it ok to have not have any empathy for fellow Americans who have to bear the personal cost as humans to your political policies.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:29
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people want the option to terminate past viability.
It is extremely rare and always for a heartbreaking catastrophic reason. This has been explained over and over and over again.
It is not extremely rare and it is not always for a catastrophic reason. As has been shown over and over on this board, third trimester abortions have been had over things like fights with a boyfriend to financial issues to delay in seeking care. No matter how much you want what you say to be true, it simply isn’t.
Instead of ranting, PP, why not provide solid statistics from a reliable source on all these 9th month abortions because someone had a fight with her boyfriend, etc.?
Please. I'll wait.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:26
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people want the option to terminate past viability.
NO ONE wants to terminate "past viability."
DJT (your hero, apparently) says that they are "aborting" full-term babies. He said that in the debate with Biden.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:26
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Because I am not a walking uterus.
Believe it or not, women also have opinions about immigration, crime, crowded public schools, Title IX, and yes, even taxes.
And if you had informed opinions based on facts and not GOP fear-mongering and lies, you would know you must NOT vote for Trump.
Anonymous
10/26/2024 00:16
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:Women also use birth control.
Stop by your county health department to get free birth control.
Listen to the evangelicals -- they want to get rid of birth control. Justice Thomas wants to get rid of birth control.
Anonymous
10/25/2024 22:49
Subject: Re:Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
This is Trump’s America. Complete dystopia.
Anonymous
10/25/2024 22:45
Subject: Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights
Anonymous wrote:I’m pro choice and will be voting blue regardless, but am I the only woman who has never worried about getting pregnant?
I remember a high school health class (in the early 90s, amid nonstop AIDS hysteria, in an urban liberal secular area) when we were asked what we feared more: pregnancy or HIV. I was the only girl out of dozens who was more concerned about the thing that could kill me.
Obviously there were points in my life when I would not have welcomed a pregnancy, but so many women seem to be in a constant state of terror over it, and I’ve simply never understood it. There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy (I remember being 23, horny but a student with big plans, and I was on birth control, used a condom, made him pull out, AND made sure it wasn’t during my ovulation window; iuds weren’t even a thing back then), and yes, of course shit sometimes happens and it’s necessary or a good idea to abort, and I think it should be accessible and safe to do so, but there’s no reason to fret over it 24/7. I feel like I missed some fundamental part of being a woman in that I didn’t spend thirty years obsessing over possibly getting pregnant.
Sounds like you were obsessing over it.
IUDs were available back then. Sexist OBGYNs probably gatekept them from young, single women, but they were definitely available.
I was definitely not ok getting pregnant back then.