Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 17:13     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
Anonymous wrote:This is exactly it and the point of the post. It is fear mongering. And unfortunately it works. The much bigger threat to middle class and LMC is corporate greed, no worker protections, no safety nets, and of course climate devastation that will make living in previously affordable areas dangerous and unaffordable. But let’s ignore all of that and focus on these ‘criminal’ immigrants stealing from us and eating our pets.


What a patronizing post. Mass illegal immigration is a threat to the jobs and wages of blue collar workers, even Bernie Sanders admitted it before the Democrats went crazy by supporting open borders. Importing large numbers of impoverished, uneducated, low wage, non-English speaking migrants into a community has a tremendous negative effect on that community. I’ve seen it in the city I live in. The schools are terrible and full of ELL, housing prices are very high, car insurance rates keep rising, etc. I want to move, but I have no confidence that the Democrats won’t flood my new community and school system with more indigent migrants. I have no problem with legal immigration of people who have skills we need, speak English and are able to provide for themselves. I am tremendously against mass illegal immigration of unskilled migrants into the country. Liberals have disregarded people’s concerns over immigration and then turn around and wonder why Donald Trump has so much support. People disliking Democrat economic and immigration policies are why he has so much support, but you just turn around and insult all of us who support him while diminishing our concerns.
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Post 10/18/2024 16:45     Subject: Re:Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:No, it's because as pp said resources are finite. We've seen this first hand. When your kids are in a school where poverty has grown to over 60% free lunch in less than 10 yrs, the school starts scaling back.
Ex. Your child is reading below grade level or you suspect an issue you are told all is fine. That's because there are so many children at the school who are either doing worse or who are new arrivals and cannot read at all.


Yikes. This hits home in FCPS.


come to Sterling Middle school and see what Democrat policies have done to the middle class. Title one school , gangs, kids without parents, kids cant speak English.

and Democratic politicians are NEVER seen there. Warner, Kaine, Conelly never seen or helping.


When they don't visit the schools or see firsthand what's happening, they can pretend problems don't exist.


My children attend public schools in a city people claim is ‘overrun’ with immigrants. No issues for my kids.


As I think you would know, schools can vary greatly within a city or school system-- even schools within a couple of miles of each other. Do your children attend a public school in which 75+ % of the students are identified as learning English as a second language and possibly Title 1 as well?


These children are spread across schools. I don’t think you understand how capable the school system is. An influx of a relatively small percentage of children is not going to break it. It is pure propaganda to make it seem like it’s a ‘crisis’ for everyone. Is it an important issue? Sure. Is it a crisis ? Nope


25% of the students in FCPS are ESL. That is not sustainable.


It has to be more than this. All the ES in our pyramid are over 40%.
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Post 10/18/2024 16:38     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
Anonymous wrote:I will tell you about the changes I see first hand. Not sure they are caused by “illegals” as most immigration is semi legal now - asylum, tps and such, but low skilled and high needs.
- trash everywhere
- crazy driving
- long wait times for benefits (I help ppl apply)
- impossible to sign up for free English classes, long waitlists
- everything is translated into Spanish
I don’t care if it’s legal or illegal it needs to stop


I noticed our western Fcps school's sign is now in Spanish.
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Post 10/18/2024 13:50     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


And just how many unvetted immigrants do you think we should allow to immigrate to the Uunited States? Any limits??
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Post 10/18/2024 13:22     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!


Not in DC. Where is it that you live that you are personally so affected?


Alexandria, Virginia. Illegal immigrants (and those brought here under the admins insane TPS programs) have degraded this City and is crushing our public services and infrastructure. But, I agree that DC proper’s abject failure to address crime by US citizens personally affects more people in DC than the illegal immigrant invasion.


How has it affected you?


I have children in public schools which are overcrowded and unable to educate. The district stupidly chooses to allow 22 year old ELL students to go to high school. So my 14 year old sophomore girl is in gym class with a 22 year old. My car insurance rates are increasing. Access to medical care is diminished and long waits at the ER. There was a body found in our local playground a few years back - gang related. The number of cars parked on residential streets is insane. I can go on. Again - the City’s lack of governance is the heart of the problem, but the continuous stream of people exacerbates it.


The left and status quo people want you to deny what you see and experience with your own eyes. If you disagree then they hurl “racist” “xenophobe” “maga” “trumper”. They can all F off at this point as far as I’m concerned
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Post 10/18/2024 13:17     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!


Not in DC. Where is it that you live that you are personally so affected?


Alexandria, Virginia. Illegal immigrants (and those brought here under the admins insane TPS programs) have degraded this City and is crushing our public services and infrastructure. But, I agree that DC proper’s abject failure to address crime by US citizens personally affects more people in DC than the illegal immigrant invasion.


How has it affected you?


I have children in public schools which are overcrowded and unable to educate. The district stupidly chooses to allow 22 year old ELL students to go to high school. So my 14 year old sophomore girl is in gym class with a 22 year old. My car insurance rates are increasing. Access to medical care is diminished and long waits at the ER. There was a body found in our local playground a few years back - gang related. The number of cars parked on residential streets is insane. I can go on. Again - the City’s lack of governance is the heart of the problem, but the continuous stream of people exacerbates it.


Wait. After all this ranting and raving, your complaint is a gym class and parking spots? And you’ve done a study proving that immigrants are the ones taking your parking spot?

IME medical care is crappy bc of insurance companies, not immigrants. I’d advise you to open your eyes and see where the real problems in this country lie, and it’s not immigrants


Disagree. And your dismissive POV is exactly why Trump will win.
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Post 10/18/2024 13:15     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


I mentioned criminals because as an immigrant myself I would NEVER think of immigrants as a whole as criminals. I do think, and it's insane to me that this would be controversial, we should vet people's criminal backgrounds when they come in, as is done for legal immigrants. How is this remotely controversial?


Trump and Vance have repeatedly branded immigrants to be criminals, along with threatening to criminalize legal asylum seekers and asylum recipients and to strip naturalization from immigrants.


I am well aware of Trump and Vance and all the crap they say. Do not assume someone is Trump and Vance or voting for them because they think immigration is in fact an issue in the race. I am voting for Harris btw. I don't think either party is especially motivated to fix anything. There is fear-mongering on one side, and not enough done on the other to actually remove criminal immigrants (again, a SMALL portion of immigrants, immigrants as a whole are more law-abiding than US born citizens!) used by GOP to give us all a bad name.
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Post 10/18/2024 13:10     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


I mentioned criminals because as an immigrant myself I would NEVER think of immigrants as a whole as criminals. I do think, and it's insane to me that this would be controversial, we should vet people's criminal backgrounds when they come in, as is done for legal immigrants. How is this remotely controversial?


Trump and Vance have repeatedly branded immigrants to be criminals, along with threatening to criminalize legal asylum seekers and asylum recipients and to strip naturalization from immigrants.


Exactly exactly exactly. And this phony pretending to be a recent immigrant is pandering to this ugliness
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Post 10/18/2024 13:09     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


I mentioned criminals because as an immigrant myself I would NEVER think of immigrants as a whole as criminals. I do think, and it's insane to me that this would be controversial, we should vet people's criminal backgrounds when they come in, as is done for legal immigrants. How is this remotely controversial?


Not controversial but not the huge defining issue you’re trying to make it. Immigrant crime is just not the issue fear mongering MAGA want to make it. But I understand why you do. Bc you’ve got nothing else to offer people as far as programs or policies that will help people. So you have to find a scape goat
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Post 10/18/2024 13:07     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


I mentioned criminals because as an immigrant myself I would NEVER think of immigrants as a whole as criminals. I do think, and it's insane to me that this would be controversial, we should vet people's criminal backgrounds when they come in, as is done for legal immigrants. How is this remotely controversial?


Trump and Vance have repeatedly branded immigrants to be criminals, along with threatening to criminalize legal asylum seekers and asylum recipients and to strip naturalization from immigrants.
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Post 10/18/2024 13:07     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!


Not in DC. Where is it that you live that you are personally so affected?


Alexandria, Virginia. Illegal immigrants (and those brought here under the admins insane TPS programs) have degraded this City and is crushing our public services and infrastructure. But, I agree that DC proper’s abject failure to address crime by US citizens personally affects more people in DC than the illegal immigrant invasion.


How has it affected you?


I have children in public schools which are overcrowded and unable to educate. The district stupidly chooses to allow 22 year old ELL students to go to high school. So my 14 year old sophomore girl is in gym class with a 22 year old. My car insurance rates are increasing. Access to medical care is diminished and long waits at the ER. There was a body found in our local playground a few years back - gang related. The number of cars parked on residential streets is insane. I can go on. Again - the City’s lack of governance is the heart of the problem, but the continuous stream of people exacerbates it.


Wait. After all this ranting and raving, your complaint is a gym class and parking spots? And you’ve done a study proving that immigrants are the ones taking your parking spot?

IME medical care is crappy bc of insurance companies, not immigrants. I’d advise you to open your eyes and see where the real problems in this country lie, and it’s not immigrants
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Post 10/18/2024 13:05     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.


I mentioned criminals because as an immigrant myself I would NEVER think of immigrants as a whole as criminals. I do think, and it's insane to me that this would be controversial, we should vet people's criminal backgrounds when they come in, as is done for legal immigrants. How is this remotely controversial?
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Post 10/18/2024 13:00     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.


You specifically mentioned ‘criminals’ because that’s the buzz word you want people to think of when they think of immigrants. And it’s just not accurate. The vast vast majority are law abiding and just want a chance to work and they are not stealing jobs or eating pets.

Of course you’re not a recent immigrant. You’re a pot stirring idiot.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 12:29     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an immigrant and I think most immigrants are very anti illegal immigration of people whose criminal history is not vetted. It seems like complete insanity to me to have some people jump through a multitude of legal hoops to even stay here after being productive members of society for years, and then have criminals jump the border and be here long enough to establish gang strongholds at all. It makes absolutely zero sense why anyone is allowing a gang member to be in the US for even a day, much less come in at all. I don't see how it's not been tackled better already.


I think you’re lying. If you were truly a recent immigrant you’d know that immigrants are not ‘criminals’, they are those fleeing poverty and war and seeking a better life, just as you did. And my great grandparents did. My great grandfather was illegal.


I am an immigrant, though not recent. And I did NOT make the claim all immigrants are criminals so not sure where that assumption came from? I am specifically about immigrants who are criminals, which is obviously not most (not sure why anyone would think I would think that?!). They hurt immigrant and poor communities the most.
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Post 10/18/2024 12:14     Subject: Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!


Not in DC. Where is it that you live that you are personally so affected?


Alexandria, Virginia. Illegal immigrants (and those brought here under the admins insane TPS programs) have degraded this City and is crushing our public services and infrastructure. But, I agree that DC proper’s abject failure to address crime by US citizens personally affects more people in DC than the illegal immigrant invasion.


How has it affected you?


I have children in public schools which are overcrowded and unable to educate. The district stupidly chooses to allow 22 year old ELL students to go to high school. So my 14 year old sophomore girl is in gym class with a 22 year old. My car insurance rates are increasing. Access to medical care is diminished and long waits at the ER. There was a body found in our local playground a few years back - gang related. The number of cars parked on residential streets is insane. I can go on. Again - the City’s lack of governance is the heart of the problem, but the continuous stream of people exacerbates it.