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Anonymous wrote:USMNT lost to Canada yesterday but that’s not the point. They couldn’t even fill half the not very big stadium on a Saturday with good weather. Meanwhile, there were hundreds of college football games the same day with packed stadiums. Just illustrates how far behind men’s soccer is in this country.

No over the top hype, bands and cheerleaders at soccer

We watch NASCAR for the crashes and football for the CTE hits

First -- no one watches NASCAR anymore -- it was a sport that caught on in the US but now has become niche again -- like Hockey, like Soccer.

No one watches football for CTE or even the hits. If that were true the NFL and NCAA would not be reducing hits of all kinds. It is the entire game that everyone loves. There is also no over the top hype. Hype does not get what you saw yesterday and what you will see today. If all it was was hype, all the NWSL and MLS teams would hype.

The reality is that soccer is popular as a sport to play as a kid. Some keep with it, most do not. As a country we are not all that interested in it. On the men's side without the strong Latino support MLS would not exist. On the women's side there is a limited fan base that has grown and will continue to grow but will only fill a small soccer stadium if there is some angle or story.

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Anonymous wrote:USMNT lost to Canada yesterday but that’s not the point. They couldn’t even fill half the not very big stadium on a Saturday with good weather. Meanwhile, there were hundreds of college football games the same day with packed stadiums. Just illustrates how far behind men’s soccer is in this country.

No over the top hype, bands and cheerleaders at soccer

We watch NASCAR for the crashes and football for the CTE hits

First -- no one watches NASCAR anymore -- it was a sport that caught on in the US but now has become niche again -- like Hockey, like Soccer.

No one watches football for CTE or even the hits. If that were true the NFL and NCAA would not be reducing hits of all kinds. It is the entire game that everyone loves. There is also no over the top hype. Hype does not get what you saw yesterday and what you will see today. If all it was was hype, all the NWSL and MLS teams would hype.

The reality is that soccer is popular as a sport to play as a kid. Some keep with it, most do not. As a country we are not all that interested in it. On the men's side without the strong Latino support MLS would not exist. On the women's side there is a limited fan base that has grown and will continue to grow but will only fill a small soccer stadium if there is some angle or story.

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Anonymous wrote:USMNT lost to Canada yesterday but that’s not the point. They couldn’t even fill half the not very big stadium on a Saturday with good weather. Meanwhile, there were hundreds of college football games the same day with packed stadiums. Just illustrates how far behind men’s soccer is in this country.

No over the top hype, bands and cheerleaders at soccer

We watch NASCAR for the crashes and football for the CTE hits

Anonymous wrote:USMNT lost to Canada yesterday but that’s not the point. They couldn’t even fill half the not very big stadium on a Saturday with good weather. Meanwhile, there were hundreds of college football games the same day with packed stadiums. Just illustrates how far behind men’s soccer is in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:Opposing view to argument in this thread that the system in the US is totally bad:

Despite the level on the women's side being a lot closer in the recent decade the women in the US still are at the top and are bound to continue so. They also go thru the pay to play system so there must be something right with injecting money and generating talent/wins. On the mens side with the amount of money being poured into soccer is just a matter of time the USMNT makes regular runs at the top 8 in the WC and MLS improves its quality. Investment will win in the long run. Other countries generations are not the same as they used to be. Argentina, Brazil, France, Netherlands are not that ahead anymore because modern society is changing how kids mature and how much they play free soccer (in the streets, etc).

US Women/Girls had a big head start.

The rest of the world just started taking Women's soccer seriously and the gap narrowing is fast.

Comparison to the Men's side is silly

Very comparable to Brazil and Argentina men's lead back in the days look at them now both can barely beat Ecuador. Investment from lower countries made them catch up.

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Anonymous wrote:Opposing view to argument in this thread that the system in the US is totally bad:

Despite the level on the women's side being a lot closer in the recent decade the women in the US still are at the top and are bound to continue so. They also go thru the pay to play system so there must be something right with injecting money and generating talent/wins. On the mens side with the amount of money being poured into soccer is just a matter of time the USMNT makes regular runs at the top 8 in the WC and MLS improves its quality. Investment will win in the long run. Other countries generations are not the same as they used to be. Argentina, Brazil, France, Netherlands are not that ahead anymore because modern society is changing how kids mature and how much they play free soccer (in the streets, etc).

US Women/Girls had a big head start.

The rest of the world just started taking Women's soccer seriously and the gap narrowing is fast.

Comparison to the Men's side is silly

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Anonymous wrote:Opposing view to argument in this thread that the system in the US is totally bad:

Despite the level on the women's side being a lot closer in the recent decade the women in the US still are at the top and are bound to continue so. They also go thru the pay to play system so there must be something right with injecting money and generating talent/wins. On the mens side with the amount of money being poured into soccer is just a matter of time the USMNT makes regular runs at the top 8 in the WC and MLS improves its quality. Investment will win in the long run. Other countries generations are not the same as they used to be. Argentina, Brazil, France, Netherlands are not that ahead anymore because modern society is changing how kids mature and how much they play free soccer (in the streets, etc).

US Women/Girls had a big head start.

The rest of the world just started taking Women's soccer seriously and the gap narrowing is fast.

Comparison to the Men's side is silly

Anonymous wrote:Opposing view to argument in this thread that the system in the US is totally bad:

Despite the level on the women's side being a lot closer in the recent decade the women in the US still are at the top and are bound to continue so. They also go thru the pay to play system so there must be something right with injecting money and generating talent/wins. On the mens side with the amount of money being poured into soccer is just a matter of time the USMNT makes regular runs at the top 8 in the WC and MLS improves its quality. Investment will win in the long run. Other countries generations are not the same as they used to be. Argentina, Brazil, France, Netherlands are not that ahead anymore because modern society is changing how kids mature and how much they play free soccer (in the streets, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:According to data collected by STATS LLC, a professional basketball player runs around 2.55 miles on average during 48 minutes of the gaming session.

The average NFL player is physically moving for only about 11 minutes per game. Wide receivers and cornerbacks do the most running, covering about 1.25 miles per game.

These are the sports with the best athletes according to some.

Soccer players are averaging around 10K distance covered per game.

So is a half-marathon runner a better athlete than a soccer player?

The fastest ever recorded speed in world football is 23.35 mph, achieved just this year by Micky van de Ven. Prior to that, the fastest recorded speed was under 23.

DK Metcalf clocked 22.23 mph in an NFL game, carrying a ball, and wearing restrictive clothing, a helmet, and pads.

Do you know what marathon runners do?
They only run, at about the same pace continuously without need for agility or sudden change of direction.
That part of your education complete, the only athletes mentioned on this topic are NFL, NBA and MLB players.

What does a top speed clocking have to do with soccer skills?

Thank you for expressing your concern about my education and attempting to fill it in. Unfortunately, your help is nonsense and doesn't reflect the messages. The prior post listed the average distance run by athletes in different sports. I was pointing out this is NOT a good measure of whether someone is an athlete by asking the rhetorical about half marathoners. I can run a half a marathon, and am not a good athlete. The point of including top speed was not to say this replaces soccer skills, just to say there are plenty of athletes in the United States that choose to play different sports. But speed is a factor in soccer, like all sports. There are enough athletes in the United States, that if they had grown up in a soccer culture and dedicated the time and love for the game, that the US would excel. But they haven't and won't. So why are you so threatened?

There are millions of kids playing soccer in America. More than most countries.

There is a culture, it's just not conducive to good youth soccer development.

That's fair.

Culture is appropriate.in this discussion. People throw out the millions of kids playing soccer. Look at those kids. Half of America doesn't play organized youth soccer The next time you go to a tournament look around. Not very representative of today's America. Maybe it looks like Great Falls, McLean or Oakton or some of the other wealthy enclaves here but not most of America