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Anonymous wrote:It's a dead end major for mediocre students.

Mediocre students, maybe. But in the real world post-college, those mediocre students with life and people skills usually out earn and outperform the Econ/engineering/philosophy summa and magma nerds, who end up working for the mediocre students. Look it up.

It's your assertion. What are your sources for it?

Personal experience. You can have your think tanks and policy jobs and journalism degrees etc etc. 90% of the people I know like that work for someone else and are at their mercy. The mediocre business grads own their businesses and work for themselves. To me, that’s freedom and power. The rest are just excellent at being sheep.

That's not a source. But maybe you didn't major in a subject that enabled you to develop analytical skills.

According to available data, while the starting salary for a philosophy major might be slightly lower than a business major, the average mid-career salary for a philosophy major tends to be higher.

https://bigthink.com/thinking/philosophy-majors-smarter-make-more-money/

My ds is a very good student, not academic though, and has that fun, chill and assertive personality that makes him well-liked. I think he’d be fine doing business and that is what he wants to do, but i did hear it’s best to not just do general business and have stats, accounting or similar more concrete skills as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a dead end major for mediocre students.

Mediocre students, maybe. But in the real world post-college, those mediocre students with life and people skills usually out earn and outperform the Econ/engineering/philosophy summa and magma nerds, who end up working for the mediocre students. Look it up.

This is so true.

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Anonymous wrote:You really think the average marketing major from Podunk State has better earning potential than a philosophy major from Princeton?

No, but say NYU, BC, Georgetown, etc. finance crushes Princeton philosophy

But, princeton philosophy major maybe intending law school at Harvard?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a major for academically smart kids.

True, outside of the top undergrad business programs (Wharton, Mit, Cornell, and about 5 others) it is not where smart kids land. Look at the smartest kids from the top private high schools and top publics: Engineering, other stem, Liberal Arts (typically prelaw or prePhD goals, for the smartest).

Again not true at all.
If a university has a business program, it's usually higher demand and more competitive to get in.
Students are smarter on the average.

Agreed!

Anonymous wrote:You can go to business school. I think undergrad should still be about intellectual exploration. DD wanted to apply to Wharton and we were dead set against it. It took a few
Weeks to talk her out of it. She’s heading to HYP for math.

That's good to hear.

Anonymous wrote:Business is a safe major and pretty much guarantees a well paid job after college and lucrative career options afterwards

The young adults now who majored in business or attended an undergraduate business program are thriving post college. Some are in PE others are in investment banking or in finance teams at Fortune 500 companies.

Nothing guarantees a well-paid job.

The big question here is what a “business major” really provides.

If a business program really prepares kids to think, write and analyze, or to analyze new accounting rules: OK.

If old guys simply fill the students’ heads with the old accounting rules and BS about how business theoretically should work: That’s useless.

Also, if a student is really interested in business and studying business: Great.

If a student isn’t interested in business, would be studying it purely for the money or to keep parents happy, and isn’t brilliant, that’s probably not that useful. The student would be better trying to be interested in some and get business experience through student organizations, work-study jobs and internships.

Because they're desperate trend chases and right now engineering and biomedical engineering are hawt.

It's that simple

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a dead end major for mediocre students.

Mediocre students, maybe. But in the real world post-college, those mediocre students with life and people skills usually out earn and outperform the Econ/engineering/philosophy summa and magma nerds, who end up working for the mediocre students. Look it up.

It's your assertion. What are your sources for it?

Personal experience. You can have your think tanks and policy jobs and journalism degrees etc etc. 90% of the people I know like that work for someone else and are at their mercy. The mediocre business grads own their businesses and work for themselves. To me, that’s freedom and power. The rest are just excellent at being sheep.

Coddled children use the cushy liberal arts majors to turn college into an all expense paid country club experience.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a dead end major for mediocre students.

Mediocre students, maybe. But in the real world post-college, those mediocre students with life and people skills usually out earn and outperform the Econ/engineering/philosophy summa and magma nerds, who end up working for the mediocre students. Look it up.

It's your assertion. What are your sources for it?

Anonymous wrote:It's a dead end major for mediocre students.

Mediocre students, maybe. But in the real world post-college, those mediocre students with life and people skills usually out earn and outperform the Econ/engineering/philosophy summa and magma nerds, who end up working for the mediocre students. Look it up.

Anonymous wrote:Dcum parents, like parents in all highly wealthy areas, are more likely to push prestigious careers that signal high intelligence such as medicine, engineering, law. Business if it is Wharton and a handful of others is brag-worthy, and Econ at an ivy/plus to go into high-level banking or consulting is ok. Other than those exceptions they prefer the “my kid is smart” careers.

Econ is also just very different and isn't a skills training degree like academia is supposed to be a trade school. If you continue going into it and are highly intelligent, there are some highly coveted positions you can attain outside of "CEO"

Dcum parents, like parents in all highly wealthy areas, are more likely to push prestigious careers that signal high intelligence such as medicine, engineering, law. Business if it is Wharton and a handful of others is brag-worthy, and Econ at an ivy/plus to go into high-level banking or consulting is ok. Other than those exceptions they prefer the “my kid is smart” careers.

It's a dead end major for mediocre students.