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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

How did he miss school? My kids private school had classes and regular tests during AP week. My kids were taking APs, taking regular tests and quizzes, writing papers (one kid had a 20 page paper due mid AP week), etc. I wish they could have taken 2 weeks off but they would have failed out of junior year.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

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Anonymous wrote:kid goy 4 in spanish and comp a and 5 in gov and not happy

Is a 4 considered bad? Should DC not list it on his colleges apps?

Absolutely list 4s and 5s.

4 have to be listed, they are very good but 5s are better, my kid has three 4s and one 5 and wanted top 20 so not sure that is now doable..and now demoralized and will have tougher time prepping for the SAT, this is the ugly part of perfectionism, not sure what i can tell them to cheer them up

You need 5s for top 20s? So a score of 4 will disqualify you? This is depressing. My 10th grader was really excited about getting a 4 on their first AP.

No you're fine. Mine submitted mire 4s than 5s and got into T10. Also had unique ECs and national awards though.

AP scores are confirmatory for kids; not a thing that will carry them across the line by itself. 4s and 5s are great even at the top schools because both confirm either the good tests or GPA. Is a 5 better than a 4. Of course. Is there any difference for college admission even for the top 10? No.

So what does it mean when the kid gets a bad grade but a 5 on the AP? Do schools take that into consideration to offset the bad grade (a C)? My kid did poorly on the grades because teacher required notes to be turned in and he doesn’t really take notes for various reasons — learns better without them. He had As on almost all the tests in the class but of course that doesn’t show in the grade unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:kid goy 4 in spanish and comp a and 5 in gov and not happy

Is a 4 considered bad? Should DC not list it on his colleges apps?

Absolutely list 4s and 5s.

4 have to be listed, they are very good but 5s are better, my kid has three 4s and one 5 and wanted top 20 so not sure that is now doable..and now demoralized and will have tougher time prepping for the SAT, this is the ugly part of perfectionism, not sure what i can tell them to cheer them up

You need 5s for top 20s? So a score of 4 will disqualify you? This is depressing. My 10th grader was really excited about getting a 4 on their first AP.

No you're fine. Mine submitted mire 4s than 5s and got into T10. Also had unique ECs and national awards though.

AP scores are confirmatory for kids; not a thing that will carry them across the line by itself. 4s and 5s are great even at the top schools because both confirm either the good tests or GPA. Is a 5 better than a 4. Of course. Is there any difference for college admission even for the top 10? No.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Anonymous wrote:5-5-4. The 4 was in calc ab and actually a very pleasant surprise as kid barely pulled a low B in Mcps and at times had much, much lower despite a tutor and very strong effort.