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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

There were NOT a lot of heavy women at that time.

Have you ever seen clothing from that era?

And 3 of the 5 sisters were too young to come out. That means the oldest two were probably between 17 and 20 at the oldest.

They were not in their 30s as the 1995 women appeared to be.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone have thoughts on the new Netflix version coming at some point in the future? Emma Corrin as Elizabeth and Olivia Colman as the mom have been cast so far and probably others that I can’t currently think of.

Netflix tends to ruin classics.

Look at how savagely they butchered Anne of Green Gables. They completely destroyed the characters and the story line.

They also have a series they did on Lady Jane Grey that is completely unwatchable. How does one ruin that story?

Netflix is also preparing to utterly destroy the Narnia series by changing Iconic Aslan into a woman.

You cannot make this stuff up.

I am sure the Netflix "reimagined" Pride and Predudice is going to be epicly bad.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

Firth / Ehle version 100%

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Bit of trivia: the actress who played Jane, was pregnant during filming.(BBC)

Anyone have thoughts on the new Netflix version coming at some point in the future? Emma Corrin as Elizabeth and Olivia Colman as the mom have been cast so far and probably others that I can’t currently think of.

Colin Firth one is closer to the novel, so if you want authenticity, that's the one to go for.

I strongly prefer the Colin Firth version. I can’t stand Keira Knightly in anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

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Anonymous wrote:1995 BBC version was the overall best, hands down. Most realistic, captured the feeling of the time period in an accurate way, balanced the everyday humor of the family with the strong social conventions of the era. Lizzie Bennet was *not* a girlboss feminist angry at the social conventions of the time, but well aware of her limited role as well as the hypocrisies of her society, and she had her own strong feelings on appropriate behavior and mannerism that we would find very formal and restrictive today. It's Lydia Bennet who challenges the social conventions and restrictions against women and we can see what Austen thought of her.

If I nitpick anything it's that 1995 portrayed the Bennets as slightly less affluent than they were in the book, the comic aspect of P&P is that the Bennets had a handsome income but spent every penny of it, unable to save for their daughters' futures. 2005 made Darcy much grander than he really was, he was of a great family but not ducal level like the settings indicated in the movie, but 1995 captured his rank perfectly.

The daughter of a gentleman from a minor landed family marries the rich heir to a greater landed family and is whisked off to a lifetime of leisure as mistress of a great estate where she gets to play lady bountiful to her tenants while wintering in London for the balls. The only real difference between Lizzie and Lady Catherine is that she's nice. Austen's moralism was not class or gender and she spares no thoughts for the vast fleets of servants in their drudgery, but failing to live up to the ideals of the rank you occupied with sincerity and respectability.

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Anonymous wrote:I low-key was a bit angry when they cast Keira Knightley in this role.

I liked KK's movies at the time they came out, but looking back now, her acting style feels misplaced in a period piece. She has a spirited youth/pixie dream girl thing going on (like a 1990s British version of 1980s Winona Ryder). I know Elizabeth Bennett was spirited for the times, but KK felt too modern. Just my take.

+100
KK is suited to depiction of modern times.

I am 48 and I prefer the Colin Firth version even though I like MM as Mr Darcy equally. KK just does not fit the period pieces as well as many other British actors.

Anonymous wrote:1995 BBC version was the overall best, hands down. Most realistic, captured the feeling of the time period in an accurate way, balanced the everyday humor of the family with the strong social conventions of the era. Lizzie Bennet was *not* a girlboss feminist angry at the social conventions of the time, but well aware of her limited role as well as the hypocrisies of her society, and she had her own strong feelings on appropriate behavior and mannerism that we would find very formal and restrictive today. It's Lydia Bennet who challenges the social conventions and restrictions against women and we can see what Austen thought of her.

If I nitpick anything it's that 1995 portrayed the Bennets as slightly less affluent than they were in the book, the comic aspect of P&P is that the Bennets had a handsome income but spent every penny of it, unable to save for their daughters' futures. 2005 made Darcy much grander than he really was, he was of a great family but not ducal level like the settings indicated in the movie, but 1995 captured his rank perfectly.

1995 BBC version was the overall best, hands down. Most realistic, captured the feeling of the time period in an accurate way, balanced the everyday humor of the family with the strong social conventions of the era. Lizzie Bennet was *not* a girlboss feminist angry at the social conventions of the time, but well aware of her limited role as well as the hypocrisies of her society, and she had her own strong feelings on appropriate behavior and mannerism that we would find very formal and restrictive today. It's Lydia Bennet who challenges the social conventions and restrictions against women and we can see what Austen thought of her.

If I nitpick anything it's that 1995 portrayed the Bennets as slightly less affluent than they were in the book, the comic aspect of P&P is that the Bennets had a handsome income but spent every penny of it, unable to save for their daughters' futures. 2005 made Darcy much grander than he really was, he was of a great family but not ducal level like the settings indicated in the movie, but 1995 captured his rank perfectly.

Anonymous wrote:The 1980 BBC miniseries with David Rintoul as Darcy is the best.
Then, the 1995 one with Colin Firth as Darcy is a close second
Then, the 2005 movie is a distant third.

I watched a little of the 1980 miniseries. I do like his Darcy, but maybe not quite as much as Firth. Loved the Elizabeth. The rest of the acting was poor though IMO, at least for the first 1.5 episodes.

I would do 1980 Elizabeth. Colin Firth as Darcy. With the gorgeous aesthetic of the 2005 movie.