Anonymous
Post 02/22/2024 11:34     Subject: GDS high school

You sound like someone who doesn't know what racism means.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2024 11:26     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why teenage boys are turning reactionary and conservative

They were already going to be that way.


You sound like a delightful racist.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 22:36     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


The Tyranny of the Offended
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 22:05     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are not missing the point. You’re just not hearing us. Is it suddenly okay to say this word as a white person because you give a warning first? That’s silly.

I can understand this older teacher maybe thought it was okay. For the work! The rules don’t apply in the classroom somehow when a black author wrote the word, and because the author’s point is that language has power!

Okay, but language has power! You are still an old white guy saying this word in a classroom with kids, and you are the one in that room with power as their teacher. The fact that language has power is exactly the point. You reading that word as a white teacher regardless of the wishes of your students is claiming a power over them whether you fully intend it or not.

When folks were railing against wokeness, I didn’t think the issues would be this basic. This is stuff that I as a white person understood at least 15 years ago. Seriously wtf?

Because we have moved beyond this simplistic view from 15 years ago. There are so many problems with this scenario that you outlined, including the one at GDS where there are valid reasons for any teacher to read out-loud certain passages when students are given the proper context for it. What happens when you have a white-passing teacher who is AA read the N-word? Would you rather have an inexperienced Black math teacher read Morrison out loud rather than an experienced Indigenous one? How far does identity politics enter into the classroom? If you really want to press the argument, anything in the humanities ought to be taught only by the people of the same race/gender who created certain works. Universities are changing their tune about all of this because the politics you describe are making students and teachers fearful to think critically about hard topics.


if the impact of hearing a passage spoken aloud is critical to the understanding of the work, then let the author speak. toni morrison narrated the work, it's available on audible. It doesn't need to be read aloud *by the instructor* for the instructor to teach the work.


Why does it matter who reads the passage? I truly don’t understand. Are we to pretend that the word does not exist?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 22:03     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?

There's a deep insecurity there. When you feel powerless in society, you can accuse someone in a position of power of harming you and temporarily feel in control of a situation. Unfortunately, this is a temporary band-aid, a short-lived emotional crutch. Such children are ultimately disempowered because they cannot function with ambiguity, they are primed to feel harm, and do not believe themselves to be resilient. So many words and situations are traumatizing to them. They cannot contextualize with objectivity. (I personally believe that many students who feel this way would benefit from cognitive behavioral therapy.)


Perfectly said
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 19:28     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else.

Thankfully, most of us don't make education-related decisions for our kids with such a simplistic mindset.


You don’t have kids in a private school, do you? Because is you did, you’d know all about what this PP means in terms of “buying into the curriculum and everything else.” Parents are expected to drink the Kool Ade and “trust” that the administration knows more than they do.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 19:25     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?

There's a deep insecurity there. When you feel powerless in society, you can accuse someone in a position of power of harming you and temporarily feel in control of a situation. Unfortunately, this is a temporary band-aid, a short-lived emotional crutch. Such children are ultimately disempowered because they cannot function with ambiguity, they are primed to feel harm, and do not believe themselves to be resilient. So many words and situations are traumatizing to them. They cannot contextualize with objectivity. (I personally believe that many students who feel this way would benefit from cognitive behavioral therapy.)


What is wrong with you guys? Just don’t say the n word in class, whether you’re reading from a text or not. It’s really not that hard and wanting this doesn’t mean you need CBT. Wut


The GDS situation goes way beyond and far deeper than saying that one word in a class. That is what we’re talking about.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 19:22     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?

There's a deep insecurity there. When you feel powerless in society, you can accuse someone in a position of power of harming you and temporarily feel in control of a situation. Unfortunately, this is a temporary band-aid, a short-lived emotional crutch. Such children are ultimately disempowered because they cannot function with ambiguity, they are primed to feel harm, and do not believe themselves to be resilient. So many words and situations are traumatizing to them. They cannot contextualize with objectivity. (I personally believe that many students who feel this way would benefit from cognitive behavioral therapy.)


What is wrong with you guys? Just don’t say the n word in class, whether you’re reading from a text or not. It’s really not that hard and wanting this doesn’t mean you need CBT. Wut
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 19:01     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, normalizing the acceptability of hateful words is a surefire way to improve relations.

If a student is intellectually and emotionally incapable of accepting the significance of context for meaning, maybe this student should think twice before applying to college.

A context that's far removed from reality.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:44     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?

There's a deep insecurity there. When you feel powerless in society, you can accuse someone in a position of power of harming you and temporarily feel in control of a situation. Unfortunately, this is a temporary band-aid, a short-lived emotional crutch. Such children are ultimately disempowered because they cannot function with ambiguity, they are primed to feel harm, and do not believe themselves to be resilient. So many words and situations are traumatizing to them. They cannot contextualize with objectivity. (I personally believe that many students who feel this way would benefit from cognitive behavioral therapy.)
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:34     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:Yep, normalizing the acceptability of hateful words is a surefire way to improve relations.

If a student is intellectually and emotionally incapable of accepting the significance of context for meaning, maybe this student should think twice before applying to college.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:17     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?

God forbid GDS gives your child an education about respecting others
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:12     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else.

Thankfully, most of us don't make education-related decisions for our kids with such a simplistic mindset.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:08     Subject: GDS high school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very Entertaining to see non black parents tie themselves in knots to explain how black students should feel about the use of the N word.

The plot has truly been lost. I would not feel comfortable with any white person using the N word in front of my black child in any setting academic or not. So I completely understand the demands for an apology.


Equally entertaining to see some Black parents decide that how they view this situation is the only way any Black parent would view it. All Black people are the same, is that it?

Yes, the plot is lost. On that, we do agree.



It doesn’t matter how ANY black parent would view it. It matters how the black students who sat in that class and their families felt about it.

It’s seems that they took offense…so why are you so hellbent to say that they shouldn’t have felt offended?


Frankly, I don’t give a damn how any of these people “feel” about anything.

If I send my child to GDS (which will happen when pigs fly) I have bought into the curriculum, the teaching style and everything else. I pay $50k per year because I expect my kid to get an exceptional education. If the teacher, as a representative of the school, thinks this is important, that should be the end of the discussion.

Why are these certain families/ kids coddled in this way?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 18:07     Subject: GDS high school

Yep, normalizing the acceptability of hateful words is a surefire way to improve relations.