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Anonymous wrote:Her skin and health are not suffering going 8 hours without drinking water. If she's thirsty, she'll drink. Frankly she probably IS drinking and is just manipulating you so you'll buy her the Stanley.

I wondered what was going on with OP's daughter since a dermatologist weighed in. Not sure that the vast majority of us are in that situation.

Some medications that the dermatologist prescribes to clear up skin eruptions also requires that the person drink water throughout the day to flush them from the kidneys/liver.

Do you really believe a bratty spoiled teen would ignore her own thirst before she drank from a trashy bottle? Don’t be dense. This is a poor bargaining tactic by a kid used to getting her way.

I absolutely believe this.

Anonymous wrote:Get her the cup. This is not worth a battle. It is important for her to feel like she fits in… that will help develop her confidence. It important at this age to fit in whether or not you understand it or agree with it. You will be doing your daughter a huge favor.

+1. Just buy the Stanley.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares?!!

In the 70s and 80s none of us drank water in school.

People didn’t carry around personal water bottles.

We were healthier and skinnier back then too.

News today says the Stanley’s have lead in them.

Fake news. All mainstream metal water bottles have lead in them. It meets the industry standard and its not the part you drink from. Do more research instead of believing every clickbait headline you see.

Anonymous wrote:Who cares?!!

In the 70s and 80s none of us drank water in school.

People didn’t carry around personal water bottles.

We were healthier and skinnier back then too.

News today says the Stanley’s have lead in them.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares?!!

In the 70s and 80s none of us drank water in school.

People didn’t carry around personal water bottles.

We were healthier and skinnier back then too.

My high school sons don’t bring water bottles to school.

My 14DD doesn’t bring a water bottle at all either.

Anonymous wrote:Who cares?!!

In the 70s and 80s none of us drank water in school.

People didn’t carry around personal water bottles.

We were healthier and skinnier back then too.

My high school sons don’t bring water bottles to school.

Who cares?!!

In the 70s and 80s none of us drank water in school.

People didn’t carry around personal water bottles.

We were healthier and skinnier back then too.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those parents whose kids are really wrapped up in brand name stuff: when did it start, and was it sudden? I never ever cared about brand names/“cool” stuff, and so far my kids don’t either (oldest is 14). So I’m wondering what to expect/when.
I assume that parents aren’t raising their kids to think this stuff matters, so is it all social media?

I posted about the Lululemon bag. I was surprised, but not shocked, when my 4th grader noticed it. She’s asked for general things like a certain style of hoodies or shoes, but never a particular name brand.

It could be social media, but I remember wanting particular branded items in middle school well before social media. It also happened when we moved to a different part of the country that had more conspicuous consumption and wealth. My guess is that certain more wealthy areas have always been like this, but social media has made it more pervasive and it’s starting younger and younger (4th/5th grade, rather than 8th grade).

Some kids care, others don’t. I don’t know what the difference is. I did for a while at that age, but I don’t think my sister ever did. Same parents, same schools, different personalities.

This is not just a thing for the wealthy. I went to a solidly middle class jr high and elem school and specifically remember wanting white Keds, Guess jeans, Esprit clothes, and other 80s classics. This has always been a thing for kids. Conformity is the name of the game. By high school I think kids care less about being the same and more about expressing their individuality.

Anonymous wrote:Question for those parents whose kids are really wrapped up in brand name stuff: when did it start, and was it sudden? I never ever cared about brand names/“cool” stuff, and so far my kids don’t either (oldest is 14). So I’m wondering what to expect/when.
I assume that parents aren’t raising their kids to think this stuff matters, so is it all social media?

I posted about the Lululemon bag. I was surprised, but not shocked, when my 4th grader noticed it. She’s asked for general things like a certain style of hoodies or shoes, but never a particular name brand.

It could be social media, but I remember wanting particular branded items in middle school well before social media. It also happened when we moved to a different part of the country that had more conspicuous consumption and wealth. My guess is that certain more wealthy areas have always been like this, but social media has made it more pervasive and it’s starting younger and younger (4th/5th grade, rather than 8th grade).

Some kids care, others don’t. I don’t know what the difference is. I did for a while at that age, but I don’t think my sister ever did. Same parents, same schools, different personalities.

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Anonymous wrote:So many hypocritical posts in this thread. Everybody here does/has something (and, in reality, LOTS of things) to fit into their current circumstance. But let's drawn the line at a Stanley Cup and pick on a middle schooler trying to fit in during one of the worst stages of youth.

Because the dramatic mom is acting like her daughters health is failing bc stubborn daughter isn’t drinking water. It’s like believing your toddler will pass out and die if they hold their breath to get what they want. She will be fine with no water bottlle.

Honestly, who cares? It's a middle school girl trying to fit in. It's a water bottle. This kid has no idea that in addition to feeling like she suffers the judgment of kids at her school, she suffers the judgment of posters like you who haven't been in middle school in decades.

She suffers! Oh how she suffers! I actually know how this goes. My daughter used her money to get the cup. Then was mocked for it being the wrong color. Then when the girls got over the mocking of the color they mocked her b/c I "ruined" it by writing her name on it in Sharpie. It kept escalating until we talked to the principal and that amongst other things was considered bullying and the school finally stepped in. It's not the cup. If I could do it all over I wouldn't have even let her bring the cup to school. She suffers b/c kids are mean at this age. One item fits nothing.

Poor troll

Sorry weirdo, why would i make that up?

Why would you write her name on it with a Sharpie? That screams elementary school and would be worse than not having one at all. Plus, we all recognize it is a trend/fad so having your name written on it would look sloppy as hell. I mean...c'mon.

I wrote it very small by the bottom b/c she had already lost it and luckily found in the lost and found a few times. Oh well. I know no other kid would want it with the name on it. If she wasn't so careless and forgetting it everywhere I wouldn't have needed to.

I thought of this thread when my 4th grader asked for a Lululemon belt bag, because a few of her friends had them (I have a knockoff because I though $40 for a fanny pack was ridiculous).

I ended up giving her three options
1) she could buy it with her own money
2) she could buy a knockoff for a third the price with her own money
3) she could wait and get it as a gift (I didn’t say when).

Shockingly she picked the first one - I’m actually dreading the next 5-8 years as she’s a tween/teen in a relatively affluent area. Some/most of the stuff we can afford, but I struggle with getting a name-brand item that isn’t worth the extra cost. But that’s a realization she needs to come to herself, and the most I can do is provide some guide rails.

I remember desperately wanting a Liz Claiborne (yes, I’m old and my knees hurt) purse when I was in middle school. I didn’t get enough allowance to buy one myself, but I got one for Christmas. I was ecstatic. And then a few years later I got another one for Christmas - and this time I returned it and used the $$ to buy a less expensive purse and something else. Because to me, the $$ wasn’t worth the “status” (back then trends lasted longer!). But I would have never gotten there had I been just given one or told absolutely not when I asked.

Question for those parents whose kids are really wrapped up in brand name stuff: when did it start, and was it sudden? I never ever cared about brand names/“cool” stuff, and so far my kids don’t either (oldest is 14). So I’m wondering what to expect/when.
I assume that parents aren’t raising their kids to think this stuff matters, so is it all social media?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many hypocritical posts in this thread. Everybody here does/has something (and, in reality, LOTS of things) to fit into their current circumstance. But let's drawn the line at a Stanley Cup and pick on a middle schooler trying to fit in during one of the worst stages of youth.

Because the dramatic mom is acting like her daughters health is failing bc stubborn daughter isn’t drinking water. It’s like believing your toddler will pass out and die if they hold their breath to get what they want. She will be fine with no water bottlle.

Honestly, who cares? It's a middle school girl trying to fit in. It's a water bottle. This kid has no idea that in addition to feeling like she suffers the judgment of kids at her school, she suffers the judgment of posters like you who haven't been in middle school in decades.

She suffers! Oh how she suffers! I actually know how this goes. My daughter used her money to get the cup. Then was mocked for it being the wrong color. Then when the girls got over the mocking of the color they mocked her b/c I "ruined" it by writing her name on it in Sharpie. It kept escalating until we talked to the principal and that amongst other things was considered bullying and the school finally stepped in. It's not the cup. If I could do it all over I wouldn't have even let her bring the cup to school. She suffers b/c kids are mean at this age. One item fits nothing.

Poor troll

Sorry weirdo, why would i make that up?

Why would you write her name on it with a Sharpie? That screams elementary school and would be worse than not having one at all. Plus, we all recognize it is a trend/fad so having your name written on it would look sloppy as hell. I mean...c'mon.

A MoCo MS has plenty of kids. I assure you not everyone including the girls had a Stanley cup. Unless she’s buying the cup herself she drinks from whatever you are willing to buy.

This is the first of many such arguments/reminders from you.

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Anonymous wrote:Her skin and health are not suffering going 8 hours without drinking water. If she's thirsty, she'll drink. Frankly she probably IS drinking and is just manipulating you so you'll buy her the Stanley.

I wondered what was going on with OP's daughter since a dermatologist weighed in. Not sure that the vast majority of us are in that situation.

Some medications that the dermatologist prescribes to clear up skin eruptions also requires that the person drink water throughout the day to flush them from the kidneys/liver.

Do you really believe a bratty spoiled teen would ignore her own thirst before she drank from a trashy bottle? Don’t be dense. This is a poor bargaining tactic by a kid used to getting her way.