Anonymous
06/29/2024 14:26
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real. The FDA is funded and controlled by Big Pharma. Big AG controls the department of agriculture. And the SEC is run by a bunch of ex bankers.
So please stop acting like these bureaucrats are independent.
What the court did is say if something is to be controlled and regulated, congress should pass legislation that does so. And that the courts will determine whether someone is adhering to the laws as set by congress.
We live in a representative republic. Thinking unelected bureaucrats (many of which are owned by the very ppl they are meant to regulate) should make laws and regulations governing US citizens. Is supremely undemocratic
This was the best SC decision I have seen in decades.
Agreed. I miss Ohio rivers catching fire and Thalidomide babies. Make America Great!
Americans will have no protection against pollution and toxins. Doing away with the Chevron deference standard will harm Americans so that the wealthiest can become wealthier.
Nah. The answer has always been and will always be make Congress do more and be better. Anything else is anti-Constitutional and at odds with our form of government. Those who think bureaucrats are the answer hate the American way of life. Turf defending bureaucrats are as problematic as corporate lobbyists but they are way less scrutinized. Allowing them to inbed on Committees on the Hill is a terrible practice. I can remember when John Dingle almost killed an Exec Branch Agency staffer who came up onto his dias to try to influence an outcome. That is how it should be. The reg state has been a boon to law firms and consultants and the twits about this town but it’s hurt us in countless other ways.
Its to make Congress invest in the talent, technology and take accountability. Write a stupid law and the press should dig in and cover it. Idiot Members who turn money back in to be “frugal” should be fired. Congress needs to massively up its game, period.
Otherwise, we can can the Constitution.
Wilson was wrong about everything from his racism to his views against representative government. This all goes back to his bad ideas. Good riddance.
The issue is that you are looking at this for the perspective of a sane and rational person with America’s best interests in mind.
Anonymous
06/29/2024 14:19
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real. The FDA is funded and controlled by Big Pharma. Big AG controls the department of agriculture. And the SEC is run by a bunch of ex bankers.
So please stop acting like these bureaucrats are independent.
What the court did is say if something is to be controlled and regulated, congress should pass legislation that does so. And that the courts will determine whether someone is adhering to the laws as set by congress.
We live in a representative republic. Thinking unelected bureaucrats (many of which are owned by the very ppl they are meant to regulate) should make laws and regulations governing US citizens. Is supremely undemocratic
This was the best SC decision I have seen in decades.
Agreed. I miss Ohio rivers catching fire and Thalidomide babies. Make America Great!
Americans will have no protection against pollution and toxins. Doing away with the Chevron deference standard will harm Americans so that the wealthiest can become wealthier.
Nah. The answer has always been and will always be make Congress do more and be better. Anything else is anti-Constitutional and at odds with our form of government. Those who think bureaucrats are the answer hate the American way of life. Turf defending bureaucrats are as problematic as corporate lobbyists but they are way less scrutinized. Allowing them to inbed on Committees on the Hill is a terrible practice. I can remember when John Dingle almost killed an Exec Branch Agency staffer who came up onto his dias to try to influence an outcome. That is how it should be. The reg state has been a boon to law firms and consultants and the twits about this town but it’s hurt us in countless other ways.
Its to make Congress invest in the talent, technology and take accountability. Write a stupid law and the press should dig in and cover it. Idiot Members who turn money back in to be “frugal” should be fired. Congress needs to massively up its game, period.
Otherwise, we can can the Constitution.
Wilson was wrong about everything from his racism to his views against representative government. This all goes back to his bad ideas. Good riddance.
Anonymous
06/29/2024 14:00
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real. The FDA is funded and controlled by Big Pharma. Big AG controls the department of agriculture. And the SEC is run by a bunch of ex bankers.
So please stop acting like these bureaucrats are independent.
What the court did is say if something is to be controlled and regulated, congress should pass legislation that does so. And that the courts will determine whether someone is adhering to the laws as set by congress.
We live in a representative republic. Thinking unelected bureaucrats (many of which are owned by the very ppl they are meant to regulate) should make laws and regulations governing US citizens. Is supremely undemocratic
This was the best SC decision I have seen in decades.
Agreed. I miss Ohio rivers catching fire and Thalidomide babies. Make America Great!
Americans will have no protection against pollution and toxins. Doing away with the Chevron deference standard will harm Americans so that the wealthiest can become wealthier.
How about the agencies submit any policies they want to Congress to pass them?
Anonymous
06/29/2024 09:56
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
The corporatist SCOTUS actually runs America. Doesn't matter who is in the White House or Congress. Just wait until Alito and/or Thomas retire. We get the 45 year old version worse than them. They want to remake America.
Anonymous
06/29/2024 09:38
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
This thread should be re-titled from "Bye-bye Chevron" to "Bye-by America".
Anonymous
06/29/2024 09:29
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Buy
Anonymous
06/29/2024 09:29
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:To be honest both Republicans and Democrats work for corporate America. American corporations run this country. We can only limit their power. However greed is a very very difficult enemy to combat. Some Americans are extremely rich and that wealth allow them a lifestyle that they are not going to give up. These are the corporate owners.
That is why a bit a minimum of products and try to get them from foreign owned companies. F these owners. They hate taxes and regulations, but have no problem feeding from the public trough. And corporatist jerk offs like Gorsuch encourage it.
Anonymous
06/29/2024 08:51
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real. The FDA is funded and controlled by Big Pharma. Big AG controls the department of agriculture. And the SEC is run by a bunch of ex bankers.
So please stop acting like these bureaucrats are independent.
What the court did is say if something is to be controlled and regulated, congress should pass legislation that does so. And that the courts will determine whether someone is adhering to the laws as set by congress.
We live in a representative republic. Thinking unelected bureaucrats (many of which are owned by the very ppl they are meant to regulate) should make laws and regulations governing US citizens. Is supremely undemocratic
This was the best SC decision I have seen in decades.
Agreed. I miss Ohio rivers catching fire and Thalidomide babies. Make America Great!
Americans will have no protection against pollution and toxins. Doing away with the Chevron deference standard will harm Americans so that the wealthiest can become wealthier.
Anonymous
06/29/2024 08:44
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Biden needs to abolish the Legislative and the Judicial Powers and reshuffle. It’s clear they can’t do their jobs
Where would he get that power? Constitutionally, it ain't there.
Do you think he is a king?
Anonymous
06/29/2024 08:42
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Biden needs to abolish the Legislative and the Judicial Powers and reshuffle. It’s clear they can’t do their jobs
Isn't this exactly what Putin has done in Russia ?
Anonymous
06/29/2024 07:47
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Biden needs to abolish the Legislative and the Judicial Powers and reshuffle. It’s clear they can’t do their jobs
Anonymous
06/29/2024 07:45
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Good riddance.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 21:06
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
Liberals have taken advantage of Chevron and written whatever legislation they wanted as regulations, bypassing Congress. The courts have stopped them a few times like with the Clean Power Plan. Other times the agencies lost in court, but by then it was too late and the changes were locked in. Because they bragged about it one time, the Supreme Court issued an injunction the next time. And now they have taken this tactic away from liberal activists.
Now the Supreme Court needs to figure out how to get rid of sue and settle.
Now the Supreme Court needs to figure out how to get rid of sue and settle.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 20:33
Subject: Re:Bye-bye Chevron
Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real. The FDA is funded and controlled by Big Pharma. Big AG controls the department of agriculture. And the SEC is run by a bunch of ex bankers.
So please stop acting like these bureaucrats are independent.
What the court did is say if something is to be controlled and regulated, congress should pass legislation that does so. And that the courts will determine whether someone is adhering to the laws as set by congress.
We live in a representative republic. Thinking unelected bureaucrats (many of which are owned by the very ppl they are meant to regulate) should make laws and regulations governing US citizens. Is supremely undemocratic
Congressional staffers don't have the technical expertise to write the detailed legislation that would replace the agency's administrative regulations. What will congress do? They will get the crib notes of the legislation from the people who DO have the the $$$ to write the details... industry lobbyist! That's who will be doing the regulating from now on. It's not Congress... it's the industry lobbyists who will be feeding Congress the regulations they like. Who loses? The people of the U.S. and the overall health and welfare of the people and the environment.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 20:32
Subject: Bye-bye Chevron
To be honest both Republicans and Democrats work for corporate America. American corporations run this country. We can only limit their power. However greed is a very very difficult enemy to combat. Some Americans are extremely rich and that wealth allow them a lifestyle that they are not going to give up. These are the corporate owners.