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Anonymous wrote:I do get a bit annoyed at my boomer parents, who are always on vacation, while I have small children at home, a demanding career, and cannot get enough sleep.

That’s really bizarre. You made choices to have children and keep a demanding job. And you’re annoyed at retired parents who spent 30 or 40 years working jobs, taking care of children and are now taking vacations?

+1. The sense of entitlement is beyond me.

From our perspective, it is the grandparents who are entitled and making demands of us.

What demands are they making of you?

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To have grandkids, to see the grandkids on holidays, to host them at our house, to FaceTime with them, to send them pictures and give them updates. But they can’t lift a finger. We just don’t have the time for that anymore. It just creates more work for us.

You should never had kids. You are unfit for the job.

Not at all. We just see the priorities of our grandparents clearly.

They have done their job to raise kids (i.e., you and your siblings). Now, STFU and do YOUR job and raise your own damn kids! You sound terribly entitled.

You sound like a caricature of a lazy boomer.

Lazy because they are finished raising kids? I have zero intention of "raising" any grandkids I may have.

You sound completely checked out as a grandparent with any interest in their grandkids.

Read more carefully. I said "may have". And, I'm not a boomer.

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Anonymous wrote:My mother travels the world but couldn’t watch my toddler for one night because she didn’t think she could do it physically.

After watching two family members deal with injuries that occurred on grandparent’s watch, I understand it. Watching a toddler will require much faster reflexes than visiting most touristy spots. Now if your mom is climbing Machu Picchu without a guide or free driving an underwater complex in Thailand, I understand.

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I'm 53, and I would find watching toddlers way too tiring. But, I can sit on a plane, train, car, bus for hours. It's not the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gen x but my grandparents were very involved with my life. My boomer mom never even calls my kids. It’s very sad.

This. Don’t come knocking on my door when you need someone to put everything on hold to help you to the bathroom, get dressed, and feed you for years.

What? Your parents already raised you. They dedicated 20 years to making you their sole priority and they now also need to take care of your kids or you are letting them suffer and die alone? How have you repaid them for the 20 years of raising you? Wtf?

+1 It's like this PP expects the parents to take care of them for 20 years, then help take care of their kids for another 20 years in exchange for taking care of the parents for like maybe 5 years.

-gen xer

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Anonymous wrote:I do get a bit annoyed at my boomer parents, who are always on vacation, while I have small children at home, a demanding career, and cannot get enough sleep.

You had them. Why is it up to your parents to take the pressure off?

Their own parents helped them out quite a lot. However, they will not return the favor as grandparents themself. They are pretty much checked out.

Some did for sure. Everyone didn't live close together, though.

The youngest boomers (1946 - 64) are coming up on 60; still working age.

I'm 53. My grandparents didn’t help raise me. I can think of one or two friends who even saw their grandparents regularly.

Anonymous wrote:My mother travels the world but couldn’t watch my toddler for one night because she didn’t think she could do it physically.

After watching two family members deal with injuries that occurred on grandparent’s watch, I understand it. Watching a toddler will require much faster reflexes than visiting most touristy spots. Now if your mom is climbing Machu Picchu without a guide or free driving an underwater complex in Thailand, I understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do grandparents owe their children and grandchildren anything? Yes, it would be great if they could help out but some of your are downright entitled. You think your parents still owe you their time and effort? How messed up is that?

Why do we owe you Social security or medicare?

The average boomer never paid enough into those systems, which is why they're going broke.

That’s not how it works.

For decades Boomers vehementy opposed paying more taxes to shore up SS or medicare. Instead they always pushed for expanding yet abother benefit for themselves. So they're getting way more out of those systems than they ever paid in. Now Millennials are left holding the bag with all this national debt while Boomers basically have the gov pay for their viagra and pleasure cruises.

Precisely. Most selfish generation in history.

Still not how it works. SS has never been a get what you pay in. It’s always been you get what the current working generations pay in.

So why don't younger generations simply stop paying for SS and Medicare then? I'd like to keep more of my hard-earned money for my own retirement instead of being forced to subsidize gilded pleasure cruises for greedy and ungrateful boomers.

I mean, Boomers selfishly never paid enough into the system, so why should anyone else feel bad about wanting to keep more of their own money now?

Most boomers can't afford that. If your boomers can afford pleasure cruises, be grateful that they saved for retirement and that you don't have to financially support them.

Let's face it boomers are awful and selfish with everything

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Anonymous wrote:Why do grandparents owe their children and grandchildren anything? Yes, it would be great if they could help out but some of your are downright entitled. You think your parents still owe you their time and effort? How messed up is that?

Why do we owe you Social security or medicare?

The average boomer never paid enough into those systems, which is why they're going broke.

That’s not how it works.

For decades Boomers vehementy opposed paying more taxes to shore up SS or medicare. Instead they always pushed for expanding yet abother benefit for themselves. So they're getting way more out of those systems than they ever paid in. Now Millennials are left holding the bag with all this national debt while Boomers basically have the gov pay for their viagra and pleasure cruises.

Precisely. Most selfish generation in history.

Still not how it works. SS has never been a get what you pay in. It’s always been you get what the current working generations pay in.

So why don't younger generations simply stop paying for SS and Medicare then? I'd like to keep more of my hard-earned money for my own retirement instead of being forced to subsidize gilded pleasure cruises for greedy and ungrateful boomers.

I mean, Boomers selfishly never paid enough into the system, so why should anyone else feel bad about wanting to keep more of their own money now?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m gen x but my grandparents were very involved with my life. My boomer mom never even calls my kids. It’s very sad.

This. Don’t come knocking on my door when you need someone to put everything on hold to help you to the bathroom, get dressed, and feed you for years.

What? Your parents already raised you. They dedicated 20 years to making you their sole priority and they now also need to take care of your kids or you are letting them suffer and die alone? How have you repaid them for the 20 years of raising you? Wtf?

I know some younger boomers in their early 60s who are still trying to help their late 20s / early 30s adult children get on their feet. And these were good parents who did the "right" things by DCUM standards. By the time some adult children finally grow up and are stable enough to have kids, their parents are worn out. My Gen X siblings and I were fully out of the nest by 22. It seems to take a bit longer than it used to.

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Anonymous wrote:I do get a bit annoyed at my boomer parents, who are always on vacation, while I have small children at home, a demanding career, and cannot get enough sleep.

That’s really bizarre. You made choices to have children and keep a demanding job. And you’re annoyed at retired parents who spent 30 or 40 years working jobs, taking care of children and are now taking vacations?

+1. The sense of entitlement is beyond me.

From our perspective, it is the grandparents who are entitled and making demands of us.

What demands are they making of you?

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To have grandkids, to see the grandkids on holidays, to host them at our house, to FaceTime with them, to send them pictures and give them updates. But they can’t lift a finger. We just don’t have the time for that anymore. It just creates more work for us.

You should never had kids. You are unfit for the job.

Not at all. We just see the priorities of our grandparents clearly.

They have done their job to raise kids (i.e., you and your siblings). Now, STFU and do YOUR job and raise your own damn kids! You sound terribly entitled.

You sound like a caricature of a lazy boomer.

Lazy because they are finished raising kids? I have zero intention of "raising" any grandkids I may have.

You sound completely checked out as a grandparent with any interest in their grandkids.

dp.. "interest in grandkids" doesn't mean regular childcare. You just want free childcare. Your parents finished raising you. You as a parent knows how hard it is to raise kids, and deal with them. Why on earth do you think grandparents who may be 65+ want to do that again for another several years?

If I have grandkids, I'm willing to babysit once in a while, but I'm not a regular free babysitter. Retirement is supposed to be the golden years where you get to relax, not watch over children.

-gen xer

Anonymous wrote:Boomers are too busy and galavanting around on vacations to help their kids and grand kids, sad. Another example of boomer selfishness on top of the wealth taking and focusing younger generations to find their lifestyles, sad.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/millennials-feel-abandoned-parents-available-help-raise-grandkids-busy.amp

When my husband's DIL wanted us to move to their state to be closer to their child aka babysitting whenever she needed it no questions asked, I told her what she told me, it's YOUR child, raise it yourself. BOOM her.
Younger people have a lot of nerve. Like thinking we're only here to make their lives easier. There's help and then there's taking advantage. Then the little shits turn on you. Disrespectful punks. They sure know who to call when they need money.

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers are too busy and galavanting around on vacations to help their kids and grand kids, sad. Another example of boomer selfishness on top of the wealth taking and focusing younger generations to find their lifestyles, sad.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/millennials-feel-abandoned-parents-available-help-raise-grandkids-busy.amp

Don't have children expecting your parents to be your free child Care. We took care of our kids and you can do the same.

I think most of us just want some genuine interest in being a grandparent. Being willing to watch the kids for 15 min here or there would demonstrate that.

Is there any other way to demonstrate interest? Or is free babysitting for you it?

You mean spending in-person time with your grandchildren that doesn't require parental supervision? That is a pretty low bar.

But the parents won't be there, yes? You're not planning to invite you parents to eat dinner with you or something like that right?

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers are too busy and galavanting around on vacations to help their kids and grand kids, sad. Another example of boomer selfishness on top of the wealth taking and focusing younger generations to find their lifestyles, sad.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/millennials-feel-abandoned-parents-available-help-raise-grandkids-busy.amp

Don't have children expecting your parents to be your free child Care. We took care of our kids and you can do the same.

I think most of us just want some genuine interest in being a grandparent. Being willing to watch the kids for 15 min here or there would demonstrate that.

Is there any other way to demonstrate interest? Or is free babysitting for you it?

You mean spending in-person time with your grandchildren that doesn't require parental supervision? That is a pretty low bar.

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Anonymous wrote:So amusing how this thread went from criticizing boomers for not helping to criticizing them for not doing it right. You just can’t win with you people.

Just keep booking your vacations then and enjoy your life of leisure.

You are the polar opposite of Brunch Granny. It's not ok for retirees to enjoy their retirement? Why are they beholden to you?