Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 00:09     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
While the car theft rate has climbed in DC, so has it in San Francisco, Miami, Portland, Denver, Milwaukee, and other places.

The Republican alternative of a police state is simply too frightening to contemplate.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 13:02     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
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Anonymous wrote:People - Many of these so-called suspects are children!

By law, they are entitled to “youthful offender” status, and understandably treated differently when they slip up. Everyone makes mistakes. Youthful offender goes up to age 26 in DC.

Don’t you want to give children a second chance?


Nope not when they are engaged in violent crimes

Like I literally just don't care

Locking ppl up LT does stop them from committing crimes and provides some deterrence

How's all this light / no sentencing working out?


Jesus Christ. Listen to yourself. You want to sentence kids to long-term prison sentences. You are lacking a serious mental compass.
ANd are an example of the depths of sh--- this country is sinking to.


Violent 25 year olds are not kids


They are kids until they reach the age of 26. Before that their brains aren't fully formed. I'm sorry, but that's just basic science.


maybe so. But unless they truly have a mental disability or an IQ below 80, even a 13 year old knows that car jacking or robbing someone at gun point is wrong.


Did someone tell them that? Who decided it is wrong?


DP.

What are you implying? That you need to be told that stealing and taking what's not yours, is wrong? Even most 6 year olds know this, innately.




That sounds like Western values. You shouldn't be so close-minded.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 12:30     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!


I’m thinking like you on crime. However, be careful what you wish for. I’ve watched them all SAYING they want to be tough on crime, but with very little to show for. If Trump wins, he’ll facilitate more crime, and criminals to walk free. Perhaps different types of criminals than under other leadership, however, no less dangerous. Also, “The end of democracy in the United States maybe” is a heavier price than most who have always enjoyed living in a democracy can fathom… so it’s quite shocking how flippantly you and other voters think about it… But I hear you, I’m sick of it, too, of all of it. Democrats need to listen to all their constituents - most don’t want to sacrifice public safety and serious crimes repeatedly going unpunished, and the whole mentality around it. It is way past time for all of them to wake up.

NP. Mostly agree with you. I think given the stakes of a fascist Republican Party who wants nothing more than to destroy democracy, I think we all must adjust our expectations and realize that things could get a lot lot worse. Unfortunately, I think some crime is a small price to pay for being the sole defender of freedom and democracy around the globe. The Republican alternative of a police state is simply to frightening to contemplate.


I’m sorry “some crime” is not a small piece to pay. I live here. I own rental property.

Everyone is too scared of vocal woke SJW and community groups who show up to protest meaningful criminal justice action at council meetings, or going against the John Legend and Kim Kardashian’s who champion progressive criminal justice reform that keeps people out of jail, but then back on the street to commit more crime. Basically everyone is a fking scaredy cat and doesn’t want to offend anyone and so crime will keep rising. Like somehow it’s become fashionable to favor the criminal over the victim. I’m so tired of my virtue signaling neighbors who see the rims on their Kia’s get stolen or someone attacked and robbed outside the metro near their house, but they still vote for Charles Allen like progressive lemmings. We can’t get safe unless people face the fact that we need to jail people. I’m sorry everyone would rather wallow in their victim complex and be paralyzed by indecision than actually vote for strong action.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 12:11     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!


I’m thinking like you on crime. However, be careful what you wish for. I’ve watched them all SAYING they want to be tough on crime, but with very little to show for. If Trump wins, he’ll facilitate more crime, and criminals to walk free. Perhaps different types of criminals than under other leadership, however, no less dangerous. Also, “The end of democracy in the United States maybe” is a heavier price than most who have always enjoyed living in a democracy can fathom… so it’s quite shocking how flippantly you and other voters think about it… But I hear you, I’m sick of it, too, of all of it. Democrats need to listen to all their constituents - most don’t want to sacrifice public safety and serious crimes repeatedly going unpunished, and the whole mentality around it. It is way past time for all of them to wake up.

NP. Mostly agree with you. I think given the stakes of a fascist Republican Party who wants nothing more than to destroy democracy, I think we all must adjust our expectations and realize that things could get a lot lot worse. Unfortunately, I think some crime is a small price to pay for being the sole defender of freedom and democracy around the globe. The Republican alternative of a police state is simply to frightening to contemplate.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:36     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:To the PP, your family has not been lynched, been locked out of society at certain points nor has been discriminated against. Stop the bull.

Take your faux trauma and move. Let the rest of us who want to be here and do the work here continue to co-exist just fine with the African American community.
While the youth should not rob people of their possessions, I won't be grudge anyone trying to merely survive. Many likely have parents on drugs.....drugs that the FBI dropped into their communities. You can actually read redacted docs online where the FBI official docs admit to bringing crack into their communities. So yes, their youth have a right to be angry.


Why are your expectations so low? DC has provided many opportunities for youth to lift themselves up. I work in PG county with low income students of color and they are working, going to school, utilizing the resources available to them. They aren't carjacking people or stealing from stores. Let's be real, taking someone else's car for a joyride has nothing to do with survival. These kids know better and should do better.


THIS!


+2

WHY are the expectations so low - that is the critical question - excellent post, PP.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:35     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:919 for DC as of today, with 77% involving guns.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/carjacking

Only 245 closed, that is a shocking number.


It's 930 only 4 days later. It's almost all by juveniles ages 12-19, most with gun, most of them DC residents.


Whelp, until we reform "youth reform" it will continue. Also, all the loopholes by which charges get dropped..post has covered this extensively.


Yes, such as the difficulty of identifying beyond a doubt. That’s why a multi-pronged approach is likely best, including arresting on the spot - meaning increasing the police force by hundreds+ officers patrolling streets.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:28     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People - Many of these so-called suspects are children!

By law, they are entitled to “youthful offender” status, and understandably treated differently when they slip up. Everyone makes mistakes. Youthful offender goes up to age 26 in DC.

Don’t you want to give children a second chance?


Nope not when they are engaged in violent crimes

Like I literally just don't care

Locking ppl up LT does stop them from committing crimes and provides some deterrence

How's all this light / no sentencing working out?


Jesus Christ. Listen to yourself. You want to sentence kids to long-term prison sentences. You are lacking a serious mental compass.
ANd are an example of the depths of sh--- this country is sinking to.


Violent 25 year olds are not kids


They are kids until they reach the age of 26. Before that their brains aren't fully formed. I'm sorry, but that's just basic science.


maybe so. But unless they truly have a mental disability or an IQ below 80, even a 13 year old knows that car jacking or robbing someone at gun point is wrong.


Did someone tell them that? Who decided it is wrong?


DP.

What are you implying? That you need to be told that stealing and taking what's not yours, is wrong? Even most 6 year olds know this, innately.


Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:23     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!


I’m thinking like you on crime. However, be careful what you wish for. I’ve watched them all SAYING they want to be tough on crime, but with very little to show for. If Trump wins, he’ll facilitate more crime, and criminals to walk free. Perhaps different types of criminals than under other leadership, however, no less dangerous. Also, “The end of democracy in the United States maybe” is a heavier price than most who have always enjoyed living in a democracy can fathom… so it’s quite shocking how flippantly you and other voters think about it… But I hear you, I’m sick of it, too, of all of it. Democrats need to listen to all their constituents - most don’t want to sacrifice public safety and serious crimes repeatedly going unpunished, and the whole mentality around it. It is way past time for all of them to wake up.


Trump did none of those things when in office and the no paper rate continued to climb under his USA.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:23     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:People have seriously lost their minds. I am truly hoping the posts about "giving everyone under 18 a car" and the BS about brains not being wholly formed until 26 and that these thugs are "kids" are sarcastic.

How about this? In addition to trying them as adults and throwing them in jail for a long time, how about we round up their absentee parents and throw them in jail too?



For the people standing in the back, such as yourself, multi-generational trauma caused by the United States gov't, atrocities, war crimes committed by the govt against the African American community has contributed to this factor.

The government has failed to apologize for its atrocities, nor has it paid reparations to African Americans.

This issue is systemic and is what happens when the govt stole a people from their land, enslaved them for 400 years, had Jim Crow, periods of lynching, mass incarceration, no civil rights and voting before 1965, science experiments on poor African Americans, under-resourced schools, etc.

Shall I continue?

The stealing of cars is the least of DC's problems.



So taking guns out and threatening to murder people for their car is ok?

Because of slavery, which ended more than 160 years ago. Not sure if you're aware, but we've had a black president since.

Tell me, how many more years of black violence is acceptable because of historical reasons?


Armed assault, robbery, and the threat of murder, among other crimes, are not to be tolerated, or excused, put under euphemisms like “unauthorized use of vehicle”.
If they are treated as the crimes they are, and consistently, they would stop immediately, because these youths are neither “desperate”, nor “trying to survive”.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:21     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:Chris Christie had it right when he said Prosecutors need to prosecute, not be social workers.


It would help teach consequences and may save lives of kids who are not diverted.

Far too many judges act as public defenders in DC Superior Court and even Court of Appeals. The AG and many career prosecutors in USAOs office are not helping these kids, many of whom end up shot or dead at young ages.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:18     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:Shoot a few. That will end promptly.


Since the 12 year old was shot by the federal marshal the rate has only increased.

Generations of kids/parents who did not receive quality parenting that valued education and pro-social values and here we are. Grandparents may have been born during crack epidemic and had unstable, chaotic childhoods, possibly with prenatal drug exposure.

The 12 year old above had an IG at 8 with images of cash and guns. His father is in prison for armed robbery in MD. Mom is MIA. A young grandmother was raising him and sibs. Kid was also rapping in the IG, glorifying thug culture. Immigrants often come valuing hard work and education and becoming part of society. For the poor raised here, sometimes the kids are raised by the streets with a very different set of values in music, movies, idols. If benefits were contingent on kids attending school it might incentivize parents/guardians. Right now there are no consequences for anti-social behavior and tragically, way too many of these kids are ending up shot or killed at young ages, or they kill someone else.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 10:12     Subject: Re:900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the PP, your family has not been lynched, been locked out of society at certain points nor has been discriminated against. Stop the bull.

Take your faux trauma and move. Let the rest of us who want to be here and do the work here continue to co-exist just fine with the African American community.
While the youth should not rob people of their possessions, I won't be grudge anyone trying to merely survive. Many likely have parents on drugs.....drugs that the FBI dropped into their communities. You can actually read redacted docs online where the FBI official docs admit to bringing crack into their communities. So yes, their youth have a right to be angry.


Why are your expectations so low? DC has provided many opportunities for youth to lift themselves up. I work in PG county with low income students of color and they are working, going to school, utilizing the resources available to them. They aren't carjacking people or stealing from stores. Let's be real, taking someone else's car for a joyride has nothing to do with survival. These kids know better and should do better.


THIS!
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 09:48     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Chris Christie had it right when he said Prosecutors need to prosecute, not be social workers.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 09:33     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Anonymous wrote:I’d love that ranked choice thing to happen. I want to elect a more centrist city council. I also secretly hope trump wins.

Oh I know it’ll be insane and that he is a megalomaniac dictator. I know he’s be terrible for United States. The world would loathe him and be skeptical of the US. We bam abortion. And all would be terrible. It would be the end of democracy in the unites states maybe.

But at the same time, trump would put in place a crime control board in dc similar to the financial control board of the 80’s. Trump would be the one appointing the USAO who would definitely not be some progressive criminal justice soft on crime, don’t prosecute 67% of cases type of person like the one appointed now. Trump would prob send in the en national guard to stop car jackings in dc.

Basically, the republicans are correct on crime. It needs swift punishment. Right now we have a bunch of progressive fks crying about needing more funding and “wrap around services so we can attack the root causes of poverty and end this crime scourge in…some point in the future”.


Basically I’m so sick of crime apologist liberals and I am liberal!!!!


I’m thinking like you on crime. However, be careful what you wish for. I’ve watched them all SAYING they want to be tough on crime, but with very little to show for. If Trump wins, he’ll facilitate more crime, and criminals to walk free. Perhaps different types of criminals than under other leadership, however, no less dangerous. Also, “The end of democracy in the United States maybe” is a heavier price than most who have always enjoyed living in a democracy can fathom… so it’s quite shocking how flippantly you and other voters think about it… But I hear you, I’m sick of it, too, of all of it. Democrats need to listen to all their constituents - most don’t want to sacrifice public safety and serious crimes repeatedly going unpunished, and the whole mentality around it. It is way past time for all of them to wake up.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2023 07:28     Subject: 900 Carjackings in DC this year!!!
Color me shocked. Lack of parenting. Lack of education. Simple.