Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 11:07     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about Youngkin's presidential aspirations, I'm just glad he's my governor, especially if the alternative was Terry McAuliffe. The Democrats screwed up royally with that pick, and I'm hoping for another self-own in 2025.


I didn’t love Terry, but I truly believe that Covid warped people’s brains in ‘21. We will right this in ‘25 and return the top offices to the Ds. Sanity will prevail, as it did this week


Youngkin was in the right place at the right time. If RvW had fallen in '21 rather than a year later, he would not be governor.


Or before the RWNJs were pushing "CRT" and "school closures" 24x7.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:56     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about Youngkin's presidential aspirations, I'm just glad he's my governor, especially if the alternative was Terry McAuliffe. The Democrats screwed up royally with that pick, and I'm hoping for another self-own in 2025.


I didn’t love Terry, but I truly believe that Covid warped people’s brains in ‘21. We will right this in ‘25 and return the top offices to the Ds. Sanity will prevail, as it did this week


Youngkin was in the right place at the right time. If RvW had fallen in '21 rather than a year later, he would not be governor.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:50     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care about Youngkin's presidential aspirations, I'm just glad he's my governor, especially if the alternative was Terry McAuliffe. The Democrats screwed up royally with that pick, and I'm hoping for another self-own in 2025.


I didn’t love Terry, but I truly believe that Covid warped people’s brains in ‘21. We will right this in ‘25 and return the top offices to the Ds. Sanity will prevail, as it did this week


Hopefully!
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:39     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:I don't care about Youngkin's presidential aspirations, I'm just glad he's my governor, especially if the alternative was Terry McAuliffe. The Democrats screwed up royally with that pick, and I'm hoping for another self-own in 2025.


I didn’t love Terry, but I truly believe that Covid warped people’s brains in ‘21. We will right this in ‘25 and return the top offices to the Ds. Sanity will prevail, as it did this week
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:39     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Looks like the fleece guv got fleeced.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:19     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

I don't care about Youngkin's presidential aspirations, I'm just glad he's my governor, especially if the alternative was Terry McAuliffe. The Democrats screwed up royally with that pick, and I'm hoping for another self-own in 2025.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:03     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

I’ll speak loudly for those in the back: we are already currently in the place “that Virginians come together.” It’s called Virginia, right now, with a near majority of 49% approving of the current laws, a small minority of 23% wanting less restrictive laws and an almost equally small minority of 24% wanting more restrictive laws. That’s as close to compromise on this ridiculously divisive issue as you’re ever going to get. Sit the f*** down.
https://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/surveys/archive/2023-10-17.html


23% and 24% is not a "small minority".

A better way to look at it: 3 out of 4 Virginians think current laws are good or too restrictive, whereas only 1 out of 4 Virginians think current laws allow too much.

Half agree that the current laws are fine. The people who don’t agree that the current laws are fine are equally divided as to why. I’m pro-choice AF but that seems like consensus to me. Certainly nothing that a governor who’s in the 24% should be trying to mess with.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 09:55     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

I’ll speak loudly for those in the back: we are already currently in the place “that Virginians come together.” It’s called Virginia, right now, with a near majority of 49% approving of the current laws, a small minority of 23% wanting less restrictive laws and an almost equally small minority of 24% wanting more restrictive laws. That’s as close to compromise on this ridiculously divisive issue as you’re ever going to get. Sit the f*** down.
https://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/surveys/archive/2023-10-17.html


23% and 24% is not a "small minority".

A better way to look at it: 3 out of 4 Virginians think current laws are good or too restrictive, whereas only 1 out of 4 Virginians think current laws allow too much.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 09:42     Subject: Re:Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

I’ll speak loudly for those in the back: we are already currently in the place “that Virginians come together.” It’s called Virginia, right now, with a near majority of 49% approving of the current laws, a small minority of 23% wanting less restrictive laws and an almost equally small minority of 24% wanting more restrictive laws. That’s as close to compromise on this ridiculously divisive issue as you’re ever going to get. Sit the f*** down.
https://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/surveys/archive/2023-10-17.html
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 09:05     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time for the pivot from abortion limits to trans athletes in HD sports.


How about just trying to make people's lives a little better?

They don’t know how to do that.


+1

They don’t know how to help others, only to hurt.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 09:03     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.


I’m not interested in negotiating with terrorists who want to deprive me of my rights and quite possibly my life. There are plenty of states where evangelicals and hardcore hair-shirt wearing Catholics are welcome, and they can live out their Handmaids Tale dystopian nightmare there. As the GOP loves to say, “If you don’t like it here, MOVE.”


+1
There is no “conversation” to have here.

Hopefully, the Ds in Congress will get their act together and legislate protections for women everywhere in the US.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 09:01     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.


I don’t think I have ever seen a politician with such awful acumen




^^^ sorry, messed that up. I was bug-eye-ing Youngkin's statement of "Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue."
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 08:59     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.


I don’t think I have ever seen a politician with such awful acumen


Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 08:47     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.


It’s like the same advisers who came up with the dumb plan and told Rs to run on crime have never heard of the sunk cost fallacy and told him to double down in the post-mortem meeting on Wednesday
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 08:42     Subject: Pour one out for Youngkin’s ambition

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time for the pivot from abortion limits to trans athletes in HD sports.


How about just trying to make people's lives a little better?



That doesn't fire up their base.