Anonymous
Post 10/31/2023 09:26     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
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It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.



It's not just the funding or "defunding." It is the message sent to police officers when the public and the elected officials are not supportive of their efforts.


This is so obvious. People like PP are gaslighting when they play dumb.


I find it fully insane that people didn’t realize this. I thought people in DC were smarter.


So crime is up because DC residents don't trust the cops? are you for real?
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 17:45     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.



It's not just the funding or "defunding." It is the message sent to police officers when the public and the elected officials are not supportive of their efforts.


This is so obvious. People like PP are gaslighting when they play dumb.


I find it fully insane that people didn’t realize this. I thought people in DC were smarter.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 17:40     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.



It's not just the funding or "defunding." It is the message sent to police officers when the public and the elected officials are not supportive of their efforts.


This is so obvious. People like PP are gaslighting when they play dumb.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 17:34     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC


It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.



It's not just the funding or "defunding." It is the message sent to police officers when the public and the elected officials are not supportive of their efforts.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 12:37     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

At least people have moved on from the “it isn’t happening” response to skyrocketing crime. With an average of 4 carjackings a day, it’s fairly likely that someone who held that opinion had a gun in their face as they handed over their keys.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 12:25     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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OMG, these poor officers haveing to make these split second decisions


This is a good thing about body cam footage. It forces the "defund the police" loonies to see what police officers have to deal with and they see that a wrong split second decision could end the life of a police officer.
Not that these loonies will ever admit the error of their ways. It does make it hard for them to continue to argue that police officers are going about killing people willy-nilly. [/quote}



It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 11:59     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:Another thing police departments should probably do is take 15 minutes each week to watch and talk about the latest video to go viral of some over-the-top cop losing control and behaving unprofessionally, doing an unnecessary chokehold, or bodyslamming someone who is being non-violent.

A regular, recurring "what not to do if you don't want to become vilified in internet infamy" session.

Police departments should also start spending more time out in the community getting to know people rather than sitting in cruisers.

Police need to restore trust.


Has MPD lost trust? MPD is not known for being abusive or for unauthorized use of force - the main complaint about MPD is lack of enforcement, lack of arrests, and subsequent-to-MPD lack of prosecution.

Speaking of loss of trust generally isn't helpful when we're talking of specific police departments.


We should want a more aggressive - but not abusive -- MPD.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:44     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


OMG, these poor officers haveing to make these split second decisions


This is a good thing about body cam footage. It forces the "defund the police" loonies to see what police officers have to deal with and they see that a wrong split second decision could end the life of a police officer.
Not that these loonies will ever admit the error of their ways. It does make it hard for them to continue to argue that police officers are going about killing people willy-nilly. [/quote

It's so odd to me when people harp on the defund the police initiative -- when DC police budget hasn't been defunded. So defunding isn't the reason our crime is terrible.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:36     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:Another thing police departments should probably do is take 15 minutes each week to watch and talk about the latest video to go viral of some over-the-top cop losing control and behaving unprofessionally, doing an unnecessary chokehold, or bodyslamming someone who is being non-violent.

A regular, recurring "what not to do if you don't want to become vilified in internet infamy" session.

Police departments should also start spending more time out in the community getting to know people rather than sitting in cruisers.

Police need to restore trust.


Has MPD lost trust? MPD is not known for being abusive or for unauthorized use of force - the main complaint about MPD is lack of enforcement, lack of arrests, and subsequent-to-MPD lack of prosecution.

Speaking of loss of trust generally isn't helpful when we're talking of specific police departments.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:20     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Another thing police departments should probably do is take 15 minutes each week to watch and talk about the latest video to go viral of some over-the-top cop losing control and behaving unprofessionally, doing an unnecessary chokehold, or bodyslamming someone who is being non-violent.

A regular, recurring "what not to do if you don't want to become vilified in internet infamy" session.

Police departments should also start spending more time out in the community getting to know people rather than sitting in cruisers.

Police need to restore trust.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 10:15     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


OMG, these poor officers haveing to make these split second decisions


This is a good thing about body cam footage. It forces the "defund the police" loonies to see what police officers have to deal with and they see that a wrong split second decision could end the life of a police officer.
Not that these loonies will ever admit the error of their ways. It does make it hard for them to continue to argue that police officers are going about killing people willy-nilly.


Police departments would do themselves a favor by having a faster process for reviewing and releasing body cam video. Too often the exonerating body cam video takes weeks to come out and by then people have already made up their minds. Whereas, if there's a video showing a police abuse taken by a bystander, that will get posted within hours. Police should do the same in the information war. The truth is what sets us free.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 08:20     Subject: Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this will affect development. I would not be inclined to invest here at the moment.


Of course, noted in text of article. Free link to article in Reddit link above. Could not post archive link here directly due to filters.


Well, something had to slow the grift to developers, I guess. Not the method I'd have chosen.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2023 08:15     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


OMG, these poor officers haveing to make these split second decisions


This is a good thing about body cam footage. It forces the "defund the police" loonies to see what police officers have to deal with and they see that a wrong split second decision could end the life of a police officer.
Not that these loonies will ever admit the error of their ways. It does make it hard for them to continue to argue that police officers are going about killing people willy-nilly.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 17:19     Subject: Re:Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


OMG, these poor officers haveing to make these split second decisions


+1 and they're vilified way too often