Looks the JKLM schools are broken up.

Guess it now is JSLRK. Ross and Stoddert are both significantly better than Mann/Murch now. Is Mann even a decent school in DC accounting for demographics (with Ross as the best)? Kinda shocking.


School Name Subject Percent
Stoddert Elementary School Math 83.05
Janney Elementary School Math 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School Math 81.36
Ross Elementary School Math 78.33
Key Elementary School Math 73.88
Murch Elementary School Math 71.26
Mann Elementary School Math 67.29
Hearst Elementary School Math 66.90
Eaton Elementary School Math 62.90
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School Math 62.71


School Name Subject Percent
Janney Elementary School ELA 88.19
Ross Elementary School ELA 86.66
Key Elementary School ELA 80.25
Stoddert Elementary School ELA 77.52
Lafayette Elementary School ELA 77.19
Eaton Elementary School ELA 76.75
Murch Elementary School ELA 67.41
Hearst Elementary School ELA 67.39
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School ELA 65.95
Mann Elementary School ELA 62.42

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Anonymous wrote:Not that anyone on DCUM genuinely cares but here you go:

At-risk students:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 12%

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School
https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School
https://dcpcsb.org/basis-dc-pcs-high-school

You're using the BASIS high school number, and the PCSB data is from SY 2018-19. The number on DC School Report Card combines middle and high school SY 21-22 and it's 7.76%.

Actually, it is not the high school number because it tracks the attendance for the whole school (it is mislabeled as "high school" ).

In any event, the report card shows the following for 2022, which is pretty similar for Basis and Deal to the earlier numbers:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 14%

Just for comparison, let's look at the following:

Janney <1%
Key 2%
Mann 2%
Lafayette 3%

It seems like BASIS does better with its at risk kids than Deal does.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the proficiency results for high school. It looks like Walls (a selective school that only accepts students with an A average GPA) has slightly pulled ahead of BASIS DC (a 100% lottery school).

Walls

ELA 94.66
Math 67.44

BASIS DC

ELA 92.06
Math 66.12

Banneker

ELA 88.62
Math 44.52

Latin

ELA 70.71
Math 30.47

DCI

ELA 41.87
Math 20.74

This is high school? Why is DCI so bad?

There's a lot more than meets the eye with high school math PARCC scores. Analyze with caution.

Kid at DCI?

Not at all, I don't even have a child of that age. But if you read backwards through this thread and others, you'll see a discussion of how the math PARCC works and what it reports and does not report. I'm not saying any one school is better in math than another-- I'd have to really look through the data, and it depends on the modeling assumptions you make. The sad truth is PARCC doesn't tell us very much about math after 9th grade.

Everyone takes the same test in DC.

Maybe you prefer to rely for your data on anonymous posters in DCUM? Or does that just depend on modeling assumptions?

Oh FFS. No, not everyone takes the same test. Some people take Algebra I. Some people take Algebra II. Some people take Geometry. Some people take the MSAA. And some people take no math standardized test at all. Kids take the test for the *class* they are taking, not the grade they are in. So to do a geniune comparison of two schools' math performance, you'd have to carefully control for those things. And even then, it wouldn't tell you anything at all about upper-level math courses.

BASIS DC shows two different numbers for "Grade 7" and "Algebra 1." How is that possible, when the lowest class offered in 7th Grade is Algebra 1?

Could be 6th graders taking 7th grade math. Or maybe what BASIS tells you is different from what actually happens.

This year it was the 10th graders at BASIS who took the Algebra I PARCC. Last year it was the 9th graders. Which means, yes, they were all taking it for the second time.

What? Why would BASIS make the 10th graders take the Algebra 1 PARCC when the 7th graders are the ones actually taking that class?

Probably because the high schoolers have to take something to fulfill the PARCC requirements, and Algebra 1, 2, and Geometry are the only choices. But it does mean that students don't necessarily take the test for the class they are taking.

I don't think they have to take any PARCC at all if they aren't in those classes. That's why you see so little data for 11th and 12th graders.

They don't take the PARCC.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that anyone on DCUM genuinely cares but here you go:

At-risk students:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 12%

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School
https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School
https://dcpcsb.org/basis-dc-pcs-high-school

You're using the BASIS high school number, and the PCSB data is from SY 2018-19. The number on DC School Report Card combines middle and high school SY 21-22 and it's 7.76%.

Actually, it is not the high school number because it tracks the attendance for the whole school (it is mislabeled as "high school" ).

In any event, the report card shows the following for 2022, which is pretty similar for Basis and Deal to the earlier numbers:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 14%

Just for comparison, let's look at the following:

Janney <1%
Key 2%
Mann 2%
Lafayette 3%

Where are you getting that 9% from?

Regardless of its feeders, Deal somehow ends up at 10%-- I'm really not sure how.

Empower dashboard shows the percent at risk at each school relative to their PARCC performance. I see 7% for BASIS, so lower at risk vs. Deal at 10%.

https://www.empowerk12.org/data-dashboard-source/dc-parcc-dash

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the proficiency results for high school. It looks like Walls (a selective school that only accepts students with an A average GPA) has slightly pulled ahead of BASIS DC (a 100% lottery school).

Walls

ELA 94.66
Math 67.44

BASIS DC

ELA 92.06
Math 66.12

Banneker

ELA 88.62
Math 44.52

Latin

ELA 70.71
Math 30.47

DCI

ELA 41.87
Math 20.74

This is high school? Why is DCI so bad?

There's a lot more than meets the eye with high school math PARCC scores. Analyze with caution.

Kid at DCI?

Not at all, I don't even have a child of that age. But if you read backwards through this thread and others, you'll see a discussion of how the math PARCC works and what it reports and does not report. I'm not saying any one school is better in math than another-- I'd have to really look through the data, and it depends on the modeling assumptions you make. The sad truth is PARCC doesn't tell us very much about math after 9th grade.

Everyone takes the same test in DC.

Maybe you prefer to rely for your data on anonymous posters in DCUM? Or does that just depend on modeling assumptions?

Oh FFS. No, not everyone takes the same test. Some people take Algebra I. Some people take Algebra II. Some people take Geometry. Some people take the MSAA. And some people take no math standardized test at all. Kids take the test for the *class* they are taking, not the grade they are in. So to do a geniune comparison of two schools' math performance, you'd have to carefully control for those things. And even then, it wouldn't tell you anything at all about upper-level math courses.

BASIS DC shows two different numbers for "Grade 7" and "Algebra 1." How is that possible, when the lowest class offered in 7th Grade is Algebra 1?

Could be 6th graders taking 7th grade math. Or maybe what BASIS tells you is different from what actually happens.

This year it was the 10th graders at BASIS who took the Algebra I PARCC. Last year it was the 9th graders. Which means, yes, they were all taking it for the second time.

What? Why would BASIS make the 10th graders take the Algebra 1 PARCC when the 7th graders are the ones actually taking that class?

Probably because the high schoolers have to take something to fulfill the PARCC requirements, and Algebra 1, 2, and Geometry are the only choices. But it does mean that students don't necessarily take the test for the class they are taking.

I don't think they have to take any PARCC at all if they aren't in those classes. That's why you see so little data for 11th and 12th graders.

its kinda shocking how the white student data is pretty uniform across schools - there isn't that much of a gap between the best and worst. But if you look at minority performance, there is a huge gap.

Looking at english language, of the 37 DCPS schools with enough white students for data, all but 2 have >70% passing rates (exceptions are Mann and Bruce-Monroe).


Look at AA students, you have schools that range from 90% pass rates to under 5% pass rates. Ross has 81% of AA students pass, and Savoy ES has under 5%.

Sidenote, at walls - who are the 18 students who can't read/write. Are they just those who didn't answer any questions and just turned in a blank piece of paper? (I know people who did this when we had state standardized tests back in the day and just read a book in the hallway)

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Walls

ELA 94.66
Math 67.44

BASIS DC

ELA 92.06
Math 66.12

Banneker

ELA 88.62
Math 44.52

Latin

ELA 70.71
Math 30.47

DCI

ELA 41.87
Math 20.74

This is high school? Why is DCI so bad?

There's a lot more than meets the eye with high school math PARCC scores. Analyze with caution.

Kid at DCI?

Not at all, I don't even have a child of that age. But if you read backwards through this thread and others, you'll see a discussion of how the math PARCC works and what it reports and does not report. I'm not saying any one school is better in math than another-- I'd have to really look through the data, and it depends on the modeling assumptions you make. The sad truth is PARCC doesn't tell us very much about math after 9th grade.

Everyone takes the same test in DC.

Maybe you prefer to rely for your data on anonymous posters in DCUM? Or does that just depend on modeling assumptions?

Oh FFS. No, not everyone takes the same test. Some people take Algebra I. Some people take Algebra II. Some people take Geometry. Some people take the MSAA. And some people take no math standardized test at all. Kids take the test for the *class* they are taking, not the grade they are in. So to do a geniune comparison of two schools' math performance, you'd have to carefully control for those things. And even then, it wouldn't tell you anything at all about upper-level math courses.

BASIS DC shows two different numbers for "Grade 7" and "Algebra 1." How is that possible, when the lowest class offered in 7th Grade is Algebra 1?

Could be 6th graders taking 7th grade math. Or maybe what BASIS tells you is different from what actually happens.

This year it was the 10th graders at BASIS who took the Algebra I PARCC. Last year it was the 9th graders. Which means, yes, they were all taking it for the second time.

What? Why would BASIS make the 10th graders take the Algebra 1 PARCC when the 7th graders are the ones actually taking that class?

Probably because the high schoolers have to take something to fulfill the PARCC requirements, and Algebra 1, 2, and Geometry are the only choices. But it does mean that students don't necessarily take the test for the class they are taking.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the proficiency results for high school. It looks like Walls (a selective school that only accepts students with an A average GPA) has slightly pulled ahead of BASIS DC (a 100% lottery school).

Walls

ELA 94.66
Math 67.44

BASIS DC

ELA 92.06
Math 66.12

Banneker

ELA 88.62
Math 44.52

Latin

ELA 70.71
Math 30.47

DCI

ELA 41.87
Math 20.74

This is high school? Why is DCI so bad?

There's a lot more than meets the eye with high school math PARCC scores. Analyze with caution.

Kid at DCI?

Not at all, I don't even have a child of that age. But if you read backwards through this thread and others, you'll see a discussion of how the math PARCC works and what it reports and does not report. I'm not saying any one school is better in math than another-- I'd have to really look through the data, and it depends on the modeling assumptions you make. The sad truth is PARCC doesn't tell us very much about math after 9th grade.

Everyone takes the same test in DC.

Maybe you prefer to rely for your data on anonymous posters in DCUM? Or does that just depend on modeling assumptions?

Oh FFS. No, not everyone takes the same test. Some people take Algebra I. Some people take Algebra II. Some people take Geometry. Some people take the MSAA. And some people take no math standardized test at all. Kids take the test for the *class* they are taking, not the grade they are in. So to do a geniune comparison of two schools' math performance, you'd have to carefully control for those things. And even then, it wouldn't tell you anything at all about upper-level math courses.

BASIS DC shows two different numbers for "Grade 7" and "Algebra 1." How is that possible, when the lowest class offered in 7th Grade is Algebra 1?

Could be 6th graders taking 7th grade math. Or maybe what BASIS tells you is different from what actually happens.

This year it was the 10th graders at BASIS who took the Algebra I PARCC. Last year it was the 9th graders. Which means, yes, they were all taking it for the second time.

What? Why would BASIS make the 10th graders take the Algebra 1 PARCC when the 7th graders are the ones actually taking that class?

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Anonymous wrote:Not that anyone on DCUM genuinely cares but here you go:

At-risk students:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 12%

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School
https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School
https://dcpcsb.org/basis-dc-pcs-high-school

You're using the BASIS high school number, and the PCSB data is from SY 2018-19. The number on DC School Report Card combines middle and high school SY 21-22 and it's 7.76%.

Actually, it is not the high school number because it tracks the attendance for the whole school (it is mislabeled as "high school" ).

In any event, the report card shows the following for 2022, which is pretty similar for Basis and Deal to the earlier numbers:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 14%

Just for comparison, let's look at the following:

Janney <1%
Key 2%
Mann 2%
Lafayette 3%

Where are you getting that 9% from?

Regardless of its feeders, Deal somehow ends up at 10%-- I'm really not sure how.

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Anonymous wrote:Per PP's helpful analysis of the top schools in DC for ELA and Math, it looks like Deal academically comes out on top for middle school. I guess the fights, drugs and other dysfunction I hear about on DCUM isn't affecting kids academically? I know that came across sounding snarky, but it's not intended to. I'm a parent with children IB for Deal (in the future) that has concerns when reading DCUM, but these PARCC results seem to tell another story.

+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

Wait-- so a school can backfill-- more than backfill, take students by-right at any time of year-- and yet perform as well as BASIS? AMAZING. I never would have thought such a thing is possible! Tell us, Deal, how do you manage this stunning feat, which is impossible according to BASIS?

stupid argument. it’s not like hundreds of at-risk kids are moving into the Deal zone. The Basis lottery unequivocally means that more at-risk kids have access to Basis than to Deal.

Bingo. Such a weird example out little BASIS hater chose to make his point. I don't think I'd have chosen W3 privilege as the example of access for low SES. Every at risk family in DC has an equal shot at BASIS. No one who can't afford to live IB for Deal does.

Then how does Deal end up with a much higher percentage of *actually enrolled* at-risk kids, SPED, and ELL? It's as if you think being "100% lottery" somehow holds BASIS back even if the actual enrollment is very low at-risk.

No one at BASIS cares about your fake concern for at risk kids. Your fixation is unhealthy.

+1. This Deal parent should pull his/her kids out and enroll them in one of DC's many failing charters with 90% at-risk kids. Equity demands it.

I'm not a Deal parent. And I'm not a BASIS parent either. Do you have any explanation for why Deal performs as well as BASIS despite these differences?

1. Your numbers are wrong. See the official DC links posted earlier.

2. Basis is 100% lottery and draws randomly from all over DC. Deal is an in-bounds school in the richest part of DC.

3. As noted earlier, Walls and BASIS have the highest 9th grade PARCC scores in DC, even though Walls is a selective school.

4. As noted earlier, "at risk" covers a lot of different things in DC.

1. No, my numbers are more up to date than those links.
2. BASIS does not draw randomly, it draws according to sibling preference which perpetuates its existing demographics, and has poor retention of certain populations. Lottery is not the only factor in shaping the school. Deal is only 78% in-boundary and receives students from many elementary schools and locations.
3. This isn't about 9th, it's about you explaining how Deal and BASIS have equivalent performance despite BASIS having certain advantages.

You are ignoring the biggest advantage: Deal draws students from the richest part of DC.

Nobody gets more than a 5 on the PARCC no matter how rich they are. BASIS draws kids from high-income families too. That is why BASIS has such a low at-risk percentage.

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+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

Wait-- so a school can backfill-- more than backfill, take students by-right at any time of year-- and yet perform as well as BASIS? AMAZING. I never would have thought such a thing is possible! Tell us, Deal, how do you manage this stunning feat, which is impossible according to BASIS?

stupid argument. it’s not like hundreds of at-risk kids are moving into the Deal zone. The Basis lottery unequivocally means that more at-risk kids have access to Basis than to Deal.

Bingo. Such a weird example out little BASIS hater chose to make his point. I don't think I'd have chosen W3 privilege as the example of access for low SES. Every at risk family in DC has an equal shot at BASIS. No one who can't afford to live IB for Deal does.

Then how does Deal end up with a much higher percentage of *actually enrolled* at-risk kids, SPED, and ELL? It's as if you think being "100% lottery" somehow holds BASIS back even if the actual enrollment is very low at-risk.

No one at BASIS cares about your fake concern for at risk kids. Your fixation is unhealthy.

+1. This Deal parent should pull his/her kids out and enroll them in one of DC's many failing charters with 90% at-risk kids. Equity demands it.

I'm not a Deal parent. And I'm not a BASIS parent either. Do you have any explanation for why Deal performs as well as BASIS despite these differences?

1. Your numbers are wrong. See the official DC links posted earlier.

2. Basis is 100% lottery and draws randomly from all over DC. Deal is an in-bounds school in the richest part of DC.

3. As noted earlier, Walls and BASIS have the highest 9th grade PARCC scores in DC, even though Walls is a selective school.

4. As noted earlier, "at risk" covers a lot of different things in DC.

1. No, my numbers are more up to date than those links.
2. BASIS does not draw randomly, it draws according to sibling preference which perpetuates its existing demographics, and has poor retention of certain populations. Lottery is not the only factor in shaping the school. Deal is only 78% in-boundary and receives students from many elementary schools and locations.
3. This isn't about 9th, it's about you explaining how Deal and BASIS have equivalent performance despite BASIS having certain advantages.

You are ignoring the biggest advantage: Deal draws students from the richest part of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Per PP's helpful analysis of the top schools in DC for ELA and Math, it looks like Deal academically comes out on top for middle school. I guess the fights, drugs and other dysfunction I hear about on DCUM isn't affecting kids academically? I know that came across sounding snarky, but it's not intended to. I'm a parent with children IB for Deal (in the future) that has concerns when reading DCUM, but these PARCC results seem to tell another story.

+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

Wait-- so a school can backfill-- more than backfill, take students by-right at any time of year-- and yet perform as well as BASIS? AMAZING. I never would have thought such a thing is possible! Tell us, Deal, how do you manage this stunning feat, which is impossible according to BASIS?

stupid argument. it’s not like hundreds of at-risk kids are moving into the Deal zone. The Basis lottery unequivocally means that more at-risk kids have access to Basis than to Deal.

Bingo. Such a weird example out little BASIS hater chose to make his point. I don't think I'd have chosen W3 privilege as the example of access for low SES. Every at risk family in DC has an equal shot at BASIS. No one who can't afford to live IB for Deal does.

Then how does Deal end up with a much higher percentage of *actually enrolled* at-risk kids, SPED, and ELL? It's as if you think being "100% lottery" somehow holds BASIS back even if the actual enrollment is very low at-risk.

No one at BASIS cares about your fake concern for at risk kids. Your fixation is unhealthy.

Can you answer any of my questions, though?

your strawman questions? why would they?

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Anonymous wrote:Not that anyone on DCUM genuinely cares but here you go:

At-risk students:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 12%

https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Deal+Middle+School
https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Hardy+Middle+School
https://dcpcsb.org/basis-dc-pcs-high-school

You're using the BASIS high school number, and the PCSB data is from SY 2018-19. The number on DC School Report Card combines middle and high school SY 21-22 and it's 7.76%.

Actually, it is not the high school number because it tracks the attendance for the whole school (it is mislabeled as "high school" ).

In any event, the report card shows the following for 2022, which is pretty similar for Basis and Deal to the earlier numbers:

Basis: 9%
Deal: 10%
Hardy: 14%

Just for comparison, let's look at the following:

Janney <1%
Key 2%
Mann 2%
Lafayette 3%

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+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

Wait-- so a school can backfill-- more than backfill, take students by-right at any time of year-- and yet perform as well as BASIS? AMAZING. I never would have thought such a thing is possible! Tell us, Deal, how do you manage this stunning feat, which is impossible according to BASIS?

stupid argument. it’s not like hundreds of at-risk kids are moving into the Deal zone. The Basis lottery unequivocally means that more at-risk kids have access to Basis than to Deal.

Bingo. Such a weird example out little BASIS hater chose to make his point. I don't think I'd have chosen W3 privilege as the example of access for low SES. Every at risk family in DC has an equal shot at BASIS. No one who can't afford to live IB for Deal does.

Then how does Deal end up with a much higher percentage of *actually enrolled* at-risk kids, SPED, and ELL? It's as if you think being "100% lottery" somehow holds BASIS back even if the actual enrollment is very low at-risk.

No one at BASIS cares about your fake concern for at risk kids. Your fixation is unhealthy.

+1. This Deal parent should pull his/her kids out and enroll them in one of DC's many failing charters with 90% at-risk kids. Equity demands it.

I'm not a Deal parent. And I'm not a BASIS parent either. Do you have any explanation for why Deal performs as well as BASIS despite these differences?

Does Deal enroll OOB students that did not attend a feeder? With the overcrowding I thought OOB students could only get into Deal through a feeder in which case they would only be “backfilling” with students that move in bound.

I'm not sure, but you can see here that in the prior lottery year they did take a few kids straight from the lottery, who were by definition OOB.
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

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+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

Wait-- so a school can backfill-- more than backfill, take students by-right at any time of year-- and yet perform as well as BASIS? AMAZING. I never would have thought such a thing is possible! Tell us, Deal, how do you manage this stunning feat, which is impossible according to BASIS?

stupid argument. it’s not like hundreds of at-risk kids are moving into the Deal zone. The Basis lottery unequivocally means that more at-risk kids have access to Basis than to Deal.

Bingo. Such a weird example out little BASIS hater chose to make his point. I don't think I'd have chosen W3 privilege as the example of access for low SES. Every at risk family in DC has an equal shot at BASIS. No one who can't afford to live IB for Deal does.

Then how does Deal end up with a much higher percentage of *actually enrolled* at-risk kids, SPED, and ELL? It's as if you think being "100% lottery" somehow holds BASIS back even if the actual enrollment is very low at-risk.

No one at BASIS cares about your fake concern for at risk kids. Your fixation is unhealthy.

+1. This Deal parent should pull his/her kids out and enroll them in one of DC's many failing charters with 90% at-risk kids. Equity demands it.

I'm not a Deal parent. And I'm not a BASIS parent either. Do you have any explanation for why Deal performs as well as BASIS despite these differences?

1. Your numbers are wrong. See the official DC links posted earlier.

2. Basis is 100% lottery and draws randomly from all over DC. Deal is an in-bounds school in the richest part of DC.

3. As noted earlier, Walls and BASIS have the highest 9th grade PARCC scores in DC, even though Walls is a selective school.

4. As noted earlier, "at risk" covers a lot of different things in DC.

1. No, my numbers are more up to date than those links.
2. BASIS does not draw randomly, it draws according to sibling preference which perpetuates its existing demographics, and has poor retention of certain populations. Lottery is not the only factor in shaping the school. Deal is only 78% in-boundary and receives students from many elementary schools and locations.
3. This isn't about 9th, it's about you explaining how Deal and BASIS have equivalent performance despite BASIS having certain advantages.