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Anonymous wrote:I went to Michigan and have a dc at Wisconsin. Our experiences seem pretty similar and we both ended up at our safety. Truthfully, as an undergrad, the campuses are so large and have so much going on that you don't really wander into downtown Ann Arbor or Madison. Although as a parent, I definitely appreciate Madison a little more. DC says the food in Madison isn't as good as Ann Arbor, but we are from NYC and I think he would feel this way regardless, aside from Joe's at Michigan. The sports aren't as good at Wisconsin, but the lake culture is fun and different from Ann Arbor. Academically, not much difference but Michigan's reputation is definitely better nationally (they are pretty even in Chicago).

Sorry, do you mean Joe's pizza??? I'm from NYC also, and IMO the slices at Joe's in Ann Arbor are garbage.

On the other hand, I don't know that there is anything in Madison that can match Zingerman's, is there?

Ha! yep, I agree, the Joe's in Ann Arbor is far inferior, but at least it resembles pizza and there's an alternative to the midwestern soft/doughy pizza. The lack of decent pizza, bagels and deli in Madison is tough! My son (who is super tall and skinny anyways) has actually lost weight as a student. But if that's my kid's biggest complaint, I'll take it!

Anonymous wrote:Not an alum from either school, but I have encountered many during my adulthood. Wisconsin grads have always come off as nice and fun. Michigan grads are very pretentious.

This is true & dwarfs all other differences.

Michigan is going to have National championships because alumna Jolin Ellison wants to but them players. Already got one. Married to Larry Ellison, billions and billions and her sports interest is cheaper than an America's Cup challenge. Larry when he was less rich spent $1 billion on his America's Cup participations 2003-2017.

For heaven's sakes...no one...I repeat no one...outside of a Michigan booster or a Wisconsin booster cares about the differences between the schools.

I invite you to create a resume and apply to medical school, dental school, vet school, law school, MBA, master's in econ, literature, basketweaving, or apply for a job with Google or Ford or the gov't, and do you think for one second the person making the decision says: "ooooohhh Michigan" and rubs their hand with glee because of their good fortune of getting such an applicant? And would treat the Wisconsin resume any differently?

They are not Harvard. They are looked at the same.

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Anonymous wrote:UW-Madison has better partiez and girlz than Michigan, and outside of the prestige-obsessed striver crowd that overindexes on boards like this one, most people, including most hiring managers, don't perceive a huge difference between the two schools.

+1. Both are gigantic public degree mills with strong engineering colleges. If you’re not majoring in engineering, your resume isn’t getting any leg up either way.

Ross graduates would beg to differ with your ridiculous viewpoint.

I am a Michigan graduate living in Chicago and the Wisconsin hype is real here. Back in 80s Michigan was really the only cosmopolitan university in the Midwest ( except for UChicago). Wisconsin is now more than half OOS, more than half! That is ridiculous and it will probably lead Wisconsin to what Michigan is today: a wannabe private school which focuses on business.

Wisconsin has traditionally had great programs in sociology, history, real estate and engineering. The investments made in data science and information systems puts them on the cutting edge of the academic study and training in those areas. Their journalism school transitioned to a 21st century model more than a decade ago with a focus on digital communications.

Don’t forget foreign language study. Wisconsin has a fantastic German department.

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, earlier thread from last night/early today with this ranting diatribe about how WI does nothing for finance-bound students must have been reported and pulled (because it disappeared, I did not report), so now this one has been resurrected in its wake. Ugh. So tiresome.

uh, you were the one to resurrect it.

Anonymous wrote:I went to Michigan and have a dc at Wisconsin. Our experiences seem pretty similar and we both ended up at our safety. Truthfully, as an undergrad, the campuses are so large and have so much going on that you don't really wander into downtown Ann Arbor or Madison. Although as a parent, I definitely appreciate Madison a little more. DC says the food in Madison isn't as good as Ann Arbor, but we are from NYC and I think he would feel this way regardless, aside from Joe's at Michigan. The sports aren't as good at Wisconsin, but the lake culture is fun and different from Ann Arbor. Academically, not much difference but Michigan's reputation is definitely better nationally (they are pretty even in Chicago).

Sorry, do you mean Joe's pizza??? I'm from NYC also, and IMO the slices at Joe's in Ann Arbor are garbage.

On the other hand, I don't know that there is anything in Madison that can match Zingerman's, is there?

I went to Michigan and have a dc at Wisconsin. Our experiences seem pretty similar and we both ended up at our safety. Truthfully, as an undergrad, the campuses are so large and have so much going on that you don't really wander into downtown Ann Arbor or Madison. Although as a parent, I definitely appreciate Madison a little more. DC says the food in Madison isn't as good as Ann Arbor, but we are from NYC and I think he would feel this way regardless, aside from Joe's at Michigan. The sports aren't as good at Wisconsin, but the lake culture is fun and different from Ann Arbor. Academically, not much difference but Michigan's reputation is definitely better nationally (they are pretty even in Chicago).

Anonymous wrote:Both schools are very strong for Economics and Public Policy.

This is what I’m saying!! Why on earth would economics move to rural Wisconsin?! Why?!!

Both schools are very strong for Economics and Public Policy.

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Anonymous wrote:UW-Madison has better partiez and girlz than Michigan, and outside of the prestige-obsessed striver crowd that overindexes on boards like this one, most people, including most hiring managers, don't perceive a huge difference between the two schools.

+1. Both are gigantic public degree mills with strong engineering colleges. If you’re not majoring in engineering, your resume isn’t getting any leg up either way.

Ross graduates would beg to differ with your ridiculous viewpoint.

I am a Michigan graduate living in Chicago and the Wisconsin hype is real here. Back in 80s Michigan was really the only cosmopolitan university in the Midwest ( except for UChicago). Wisconsin is now more than half OOS, more than half! That is ridiculous and it will probably lead Wisconsin to what Michigan is today: a wannabe private school which focuses on business.

Business is only a small part of what makes Michigan academically elite. You’re making it sound like it has just one strong program.

No business is definitely it. And law. Things like research ranking Michigan competes way too closely with Wisconsin and Illinois in those categories. Michigan is wisco and Illinois academically +top professional schools.

As reference, Wisconsin has the most nobels at 20, Michigan has 8, and Illinois has 5. On contrast, Berkeley has 100+, making the first three peers and Berkeley the undisputed king of pure academics.

But Michigan is obviously a peer of Berkeley when you’re taking about non-academic professional schools such as business and law.