Anonymous
Post 07/03/2023 00:35     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record


That makes me pretty sympathetic to me, actually.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 23:40     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:Judge could throw out pre nup and then she’d be entitled to 1/2 in California. I would think it would be less risky for him to be more generous with her and just settle dispute.


+1. I find it hard to believe this prenup is going to stand. Under CA law she'd be entitled to 1/2 of the assets accumulated during the marriage of 20 years, which is going to be a whole lot more than $1million. He'd be smart to settle. I agree with PP that Costner's treatment of her is horrible. And he's trying to kick her out of the house? I wouldn't go willingly either.

He has the same lawyer as Kelly Clarkson. The prenup will stand.


Even Brandon Blackstock (Kelly’s ex) got more.

https://www.today.com/popculture/popculture/kelly-clarkson-settles-divorce-brandon-blackstock-rcna19434


Did Kelly and her ex have a pre-nup?


Yes, and it was upheld. She kept everything including all the houses other than paying him 1.3 million plus 100k a month alimony for 18 months. He had to leave the home he was living in. Her monthly income in 2021 was 1.9 million (the Voice and her talk show) and her child support payments ended up at $45k a month
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 23:05     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record


Sounds like he did the right thing. TMZ or somebody would have leaked it so he got to tell the kids before the news broke.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 23:02     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:Judge could throw out pre nup and then she’d be entitled to 1/2 in California. I would think it would be less risky for him to be more generous with her and just settle dispute.


+1. I find it hard to believe this prenup is going to stand. Under CA law she'd be entitled to 1/2 of the assets accumulated during the marriage of 20 years, which is going to be a whole lot more than $1million. He'd be smart to settle. I agree with PP that Costner's treatment of her is horrible. And he's trying to kick her out of the house? I wouldn't go willingly either.

He has the same lawyer as Kelly Clarkson. The prenup will stand.


Even Brandon Blackstock (Kelly’s ex) got more.

https://www.today.com/popculture/popculture/kelly-clarkson-settles-divorce-brandon-blackstock-rcna19434


Did Kelly and her ex have a pre-nup?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 22:51     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Judge could throw out pre nup and then she’d be entitled to 1/2 in California. I would think it would be less risky for him to be more generous with her and just settle dispute.


+1. I find it hard to believe this prenup is going to stand. Under CA law she'd be entitled to 1/2 of the assets accumulated during the marriage of 20 years, which is going to be a whole lot more than $1million. He'd be smart to settle. I agree with PP that Costner's treatment of her is horrible. And he's trying to kick her out of the house? I wouldn't go willingly either.

He has the same lawyer as Kelly Clarkson. The prenup will stand.


Even Brandon Blackstock (Kelly’s ex) got more.

https://www.today.com/popculture/popculture/kelly-clarkson-settles-divorce-brandon-blackstock-rcna19434
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 22:09     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record


That was still an ass move on his part. You hop on the plane immediately, even during a production. I can’t imagine not canceling a business trip for such a personal emergency.

Productions can get shuffled around for 24-30 hours.

It wasn’t like someone needed emergency surgery. She could have waited to file until he returned.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 21:29     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record


That was still an ass move on his part. You hop on the plane immediately, even during a production. I can’t imagine not canceling a business trip for such a personal emergency.

Productions can get shuffled around for 24-30 hours.


Depends on what they are filming. Some things can be moved and some can't. Moves sometimes come with very high price tags depending on who and what has been booked for that day.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 21:22     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record

Sounds like he handled it the right way since he was concerned about the press. If the ex was concerned about the press and her kids, she could have waited the 5 days for him to return, told him, and then kids while he was there and her attorney was filing.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 21:20     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record


That was still an ass move on his part. You hop on the plane immediately, even during a production. I can’t imagine not canceling a business trip for such a personal emergency.

Productions can get shuffled around for 24-30 hours.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 21:13     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?


Not that poster but I googled it and it seems Kevin was away filming on location and she filed for divorce. She sent Kevin a message saying she had filed and how they were going to tell the kids together in person when he got back in 5 days. He decided he didn't want to do it her way and wanted to talk to them alone and and not with her and didn't want to wait five days so he told them over videocall. Apparently he video called with them every day when on location so they are used to this mode of communication. She was angry that he did it that way and not her way of telling them together once he was back home.

Both were concerned the kids would find out from online sources as the divorce filing is public record
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 20:59     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.


Are you close to his ex or something?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 20:51     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?


He broke the news to his kids over Zoom. He’s a de facto crappy and uninvolved dad. He could’ve hopped on his jet and told them in person but he had better things to do.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 20:11     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.


How do you know he is a terrible, uninvolved parent? A quick google doesn't bring up any negative stories about him and his kids. Are his older kids estranged? Have they spoken out?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 20:05     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


This is a wrong headed comment.

Of course in a material sense Costner’s kids are better off - but that does not compensate for a soul destroying relationship with one’s father. History is replete with examples of wealthy men destroying their children’s psyches and the wreckage unfolding accordingly. Money is no insulator against profound pain and regret. If anything those children born with a silver spoon and a neglectful parent are more inclined to self destruction because they often have no driving force other than the desperate need to please Papa, whereas working class and middle class kids have the struggle to survive to distract them.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 20:01     Subject: Kevin Costner divorce

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the kids to be in the middle of this. I hope he makes an effort to spend time with them now that he no longer lives with their mother.


Yeah, I also feel sorry for teens (13, 14, 15) with a Hollywood royalty dad, living in multiple mansions full of servants, attending the best private schools, who can go to college they want... and will inherit a fortune.

I feel sorry for kids who grow up piss poor in Appalachia and Baltimore ghettos. Not teen silver spoons in California whose parents are merely divorcing.


+ 1000

I follow this story out of morbid curiosity to find out what was the straw the broke the camel's back for her, but all his kids are going to be fine money-wise. The four adult ones have easy lives, probably trust funds already set up for them too. The three younger ones still get to go to their tony private school and do all their uber rich kid extracurricular activities. Most people can gossip and disagree about divorce settlements respectfully. It affects none of us at all.