Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:28
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This year an Asian-American boy who was a USAMO camper was rejected by not only MIT but also CMU. Most DCUMs don’t know what USAMO camp is. It’s a pool of 250-300 best math students in the US competing for a spot on the USA Math Olympic Team. There are only 6 students on the national team. Then they compete against other countries in the Intl Math Olympiad. In the past, making USAMO cam was a guaranteed ticket to MIT. Not anymore. Especially if you are an Asian boy.
No student is owed admission to any college, regardless of their accomplishments.
People also fail to realize that when affirmative action is overruled, these schools still can't accommodate all the kids with the perfect scores and grades, etc. Then what? There is no way these schools will adopt a system like China or India, which many people would like...
I think it's one thing to lose out to another who has high stats. It's another to lose out because of your race. I'm sure black people know how that feels, right?
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:26
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:As someone with a PhD from the Ivy League who taught the undergrads, I can assure all the people saying this guy is a dime a dozen are mistaken. There are so many morons who slip through the cracks of the Ivy League admissions system that it's shocking. I think about 10% of folks in classes I taught probably shouldn't have been in college at all. Others were ver mid, reminiscent of a typical state school student. The fact this guy got rejected by so many schools is entirely indicative of anti Asian racism imo
I know a guy at CMU who tutored undergrads, and he said more and more undergrads can't seem to do the work.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:25
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?
I'm for minimizing international students.
I was assuming Asian Americans, so the U.S.
+1.
Why would the U.S. (or any country) only want one ethnicity in their colleges/universities? So what if you prep exceptionally well? Maybe U.S. colleges and universities want students who are not prepped with tutors, etc. - and that is perfectly fine.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:25
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:As someone with a PhD from the Ivy League who taught the undergrads, I can assure all the people saying this guy is a dime a dozen are mistaken. There are so many morons who slip through the cracks of the Ivy League admissions system that it's shocking. I think about 10% of folks in classes I taught probably shouldn't have been in college at all. Others were ver mid, reminiscent of a typical state school student. The fact this guy got rejected by so many schools is entirely indicative of anti Asian racism imo
*very midrange - sorry typing on phone
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:25
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This year an Asian-American boy who was a USAMO camper was rejected by not only MIT but also CMU. Most DCUMs don’t know what USAMO camp is. It’s a pool of 250-300 best math students in the US competing for a spot on the USA Math Olympic Team. There are only 6 students on the national team. Then they compete against other countries in the Intl Math Olympiad. In the past, making USAMO cam was a guaranteed ticket to MIT. Not anymore. Especially if you are an Asian boy.
No student is owed admission to any college, regardless of their accomplishments.
Trying to make sure no student is discriminated.
Literally every student faces discrimination. That’s what making choices means.
Every applicant who is rejected has been discriminated against.
And that’s OK.
There's huge difference between fair competition and discrimination.
Fair competition is great.
Discrimination is evil.
NP here. The point being, each school can accept whichever student they think will "fit". And that is fine. No amount of law suits will change that. We don't live in China, not all students are going to be Chinese.
I don't care all Chinese Americans, all Black Americans, all White Americans.
NBA is like 90% Blacks? So what, they are there through fair competition.
If it happens certain way, let it be. Important thing is fair competition with clear rules and transparency without discrimination.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:25
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:If anything, college AOs have been discriminating against the upper middle class for quite a long time. UC is officially prohibited from AA thanks to CA voters, but they use economic status and whether the applicant is first generation instead. They use the applicant’s zip code to discriminate against the “rich.” Even more ridiculously, they prefer unwed teenage moms because so few of them apply for college. Talking about diversity!
I think the vast majority of people are fine with giving a boost for lower income people. What they, and I, are not ok with is basing it on race. That is not legal, nor is it moral.
And if you think anyone is sad for the "rich", you are delusional, though I suspect (hope) your post was sarcasm.
UCs takes the top 6% of every HS. IMO, that is much more fair than basing it on race.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:24
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
As someone with a PhD from the Ivy League who taught the undergrads, I can assure all the people saying this guy is a dime a dozen are mistaken. There are so many morons who slip through the cracks of the Ivy League admissions system that it's shocking. I think about 10% of folks in classes I taught probably shouldn't have been in college at all. Others were ver mid, reminiscent of a typical state school student. The fact this guy got rejected by so many schools is entirely indicative of anti Asian racism imo
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:24
Subject: Re:Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder whether the people suggesting this Asian candidate is a "dime a dozen" can actually point to very many Black or Hispanic students with similar credentials applying to the same schools.
But I can't feel too sorry for this kid because Georgia Tech is a very good school and likely to be more rigorous than one of the Ivies caught up in the diversity Olympics and diluting their reputations.
+1000
Real talent will flow to the research powerhouses like GA tech. Actually Indian Americans have valued these schools for a long time. Im Indian American but went into liberal arts. Doing just fine, but throwing it out there in case people feel a need to stereotype.
+1
These kids and their families want Ivies for the brand name not for the intellectual breadth of possibilities they offer. Why not just focus on the Tech schools, which are very impressive in their own right and offer the focus they actually want?
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:22
Subject: Re:Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:In the event the Supreme Court effectively ends race-based affirmative action, I feel like state and federal reparations are in order to the tune of $2.5 million per person, plus $250k to be used for down payments. At that point, the conversation will have to turn to making sure colleges cast a wide net to avoid ending up with test prepped drones.
maybe if some kids spent more time prepping for an academic exam for an academic institution rather than playing on an xbox, scrolling through social media, playing sports, these colleges wouldn't have to lower the threshold for said group. Just a thought.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:21
Subject: Re:Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder whether the people suggesting this Asian candidate is a "dime a dozen" can actually point to very many Black or Hispanic students with similar credentials applying to the same schools.
But I can't feel too sorry for this kid because Georgia Tech is a very good school and likely to be more rigorous than one of the Ivies caught up in the diversity Olympics and diluting their reputations.
+1000
Real talent will flow to the research powerhouses like GA tech. Actually Indian Americans have valued these schools for a long time. Im Indian American but went into liberal arts. Doing just fine, but throwing it out there in case people feel a need to stereotype.
+1
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:20
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?
It's certainly a good example of the kind of intellectual narrowness Harvard does not want.
You're wasting your breath. Those with a hard-core pre-professional focus will not grasp this point.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:19
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?
I'm for minimizing international students.
I was assuming Asian Americans, so the U.S.
+1.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:18
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?
I'm for minimizing international students.
I was assuming Asian Americans, so the U.S.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:15
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?
It's certainly a good example of the kind of intellectual narrowness Harvard does not want.
Anonymous
06/13/2023 08:13
Subject: Asian American student with 1590 SAT score blames affirmative action for rejections from 6 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Harvard should fill its entire class with Asian Stem majors? Srlsy?
Yes, of course.
That would be very beneficial to the country.
To China or the U.S.?