Anonymous
05/12/2023 09:59
Subject: Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
That was Balto. This data indicates that SOME families in CH appear to be choosing SH/EH/Jefferson over Basis. It further shows that very roughly half of the DCPS elementary school students at schools other than SWS or Brent appear to be staying and going to the assigned in-bound middle school feeder. If you have a younger elementary school student, that is extremely interesting. It cuts against the DCUM mantra (which a lot of people in the neighborhood have bought into) that the only acceptable middle school options are Latin, Basis, maybe but not really SH, or moving to NW/suburbs. Basis is a good school that lots of people will continue to prefer. It is all factors considered not for everyone.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 09:42
Subject: Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
This discussion has been enlightening. It has taught me that yes, BASIS does have a solid proportion of students from SH, EH, and Jefferson. But congrats, BASIS boosters, you have shown everyone that BASIS attracts a tiny proportion of Deal students. Like 2%. What does that say about BASIS?
Anonymous
05/12/2023 09:02
Subject: Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
It’s a shame we can’t have an interesting discussion on here instead of splitting hairs about effing basis. Everybody please just let it go. It’s boring.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 08:52
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
Yes, there are parents with very academic, math/sciencey kids who would prefer a DCPS middle school over Basis. We are one data point for you.
Which DCPS middle school are you choosing?
Anonymous
05/12/2023 08:47
Subject: Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
This has to be the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen. Of course most families will pick their IB MS? An IB school has to be all things to everyone, while a charter school gets to choose a specific focus. Who is so stupid as to not understand this??
Anonymous
05/12/2023 08:47
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anyway, thanks to DC for posting the new data and visualizations! It’s very cool and interesting! I’d love to see future years — we live on the hill so interested in how Latin 2 shakes things up.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 08:29
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
No it wasn't. The words are on the page so stop gaslighting. That is what the poster who got their clock cleaned with data tried to pretend they said in response. Go look at the post. No one said (and you cannot find a post where anyone said):
More kids go to BASIS than SH, Deal or Hardy Many kids don't choose or prefer their IB MS
What's funny is I am the person who originally corrected the mis-statement that BASIS isn't a school Deal, Hardy, SH kids select. But I have also been vocal on this thread about the very positive momentum at EH based on the data. Why must this be a zero sum game for so many of you? Is it so hard for you to hold two positive thoughts about two different schools in your heads at once? Is that why so many of you react to aggressively anytime anyone says something positive about BASIS? Because your brains operate on a zero sum game philosophy that interprets a positive comment about BASIS as a shot at your school?
So let me get this straight. What you believe you proved with your data is that some kids from Deal and Hardy choose Basis. Is that right?
Can you provide a link where somebody claimed NO families from those schools choose Basis?
Because my actual claim is not that NO families choose it. It’s that MOST families prefer a strong (or at least decent) IB MS over Basis, and many families affirmatively do not want Basis. As EH gets better this means more families will pick EH over Basis. (And TR and ITS.)
Do you have data or information about my actual point?
Anonymous
05/12/2023 07:51
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
Yes, there are parents with very academic, math/sciencey kids who would prefer a DCPS middle school over Basis. We are one data point for you.
You chimed in to say you would prefer a school that doesn't exist to one that does? I would prefer BASIS's rigor with Eastern's physical plant with Ellington's arts. Let's also throw in Sidwell's faculty while we are it.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 07:49
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
No it wasn't. The words are on the page so stop gaslighting. That is what the poster who got their clock cleaned with data tried to pretend they said in response. Go look at the post. No one said (and you cannot find a post where anyone said):
What's funny is I am the person who originally corrected the mis-statement that BASIS isn't a school Deal, Hardy, SH kids select. But I have also been vocal on this thread about the very positive momentum at EH based on the data. Why must this be a zero sum game for so many of you? Is it so hard for you to hold two positive thoughts about two different schools in your heads at once? Is that why so many of you react to aggressively anytime anyone says something positive about BASIS? Because your brains operate on a zero sum game philosophy that interprets a positive comment about BASIS as a shot at your school?
Anonymous
05/11/2023 22:18
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
Yes, there are parents with very academic, math/sciencey kids who would prefer a DCPS middle school over Basis. We are one data point for you.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 22:07
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
You just made PP's point! Rofl
do you think you can just throw up some data and case closed?
the ONLY data provided shows that a tiny percentage of Deal/Hardy kids go to Basis. That’s it. The assertion was “families prefer a decent/strong IB over Basis.” That assertion was not countered by data.
I really think you are a troll.
You keep on making the same dumb comments over and over again.
There is literally no point in responding to your inane blatherings.
Please, tell me exactly what point you believe you have made with your data.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 22:06
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
There they go again...lol...nice try, sister...
They didn't show any data based on the actual assertions made. They created a strawman and are doubling down on their logical error:
Some students from high-performing IB MS go to Basis
Therefore Basis is very popular with high-performing IB MS families
No, the logical error was the opposite! Someone said Hardy, Deal, and Stuart Hobson families don’t go to BASIS in large numbers, it was pointed out that SH families do choose it in pretty large numbers, and then 16 pages later…
The discussion was about strong IB middle schools. The assertion was that parents prefer a strong IB MS over Basis and that a lot of parents don’t like Basis and will increasingly choose EH over Basis.
The discussion was never about the actual numbers going from SH.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 21:22
Subject: Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here. Let me put it this way. As a parent looking for a middle school, Basis seems like a joyless office building that churns out qualified STEMbots, while Latin is the literal Paltonic ideal of a well-rounded, knowledge-focused education, producing students who are able to fire on all cylinders when it comes to public speaking, interacting with the world around them, thinking their way out of challenges and more. A Latin grad is someone I would want to hire.
Hire for what?
I wouldn't agree that Latin is "the literal Paltonic ideal" (not sure who "Palto" is, but I suspect Socrates may be rolling his eyes now, wherever he is). Not only is Latin miles behind BASIS in math but it is way behind in ELA as well.
Let me put it this way:
BASIS high school PARCC:
Math: 64.04%
ELA: 73.65%
Latin high school PARCC:
Math: 29%
ELA: 57.87%
Palto is the dog that won the first Iditarod. Everyone knows that.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 20:39
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
You just made PP's point! Rofl
do you think you can just throw up some data and case closed?
the ONLY data provided shows that a tiny percentage of Deal/Hardy kids go to Basis. That’s it. The assertion was “families prefer a decent/strong IB over Basis.” That assertion was not countered by data.
I really think you are a troll.
You keep on making the same dumb comments over and over again.
There is literally no point in responding to your inane blatherings.
And yet…
Anonymous
05/11/2023 20:37
Subject: Re:Data Goldmine: YoY Enrollment Patterns by School
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight but found it amusing to read the posts.
The non-BASIS parents ignore data, draw incorrect conclusions, or just make up facts.
The BASIS parents make reasonable argument supported by data.
If I were selecting a school for my kids just based on this thread, I would go with BASIS all the way.
Lol. what data?
You just made PP's point! Rofl
do you think you can just throw up some data and case closed?
the ONLY data provided shows that a tiny percentage of Deal/Hardy kids go to Basis. That’s it. The assertion was “families prefer a decent/strong IB over Basis.” That assertion was not countered by data.
I really think you are a troll.
You keep on making the same dumb comments over and over again.
There is literally no point in responding to your inane blatherings.