Anonymous
08/30/2023 20:27
Subject: How would you rank NESCACS academically?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Historically, Bowdoin and Middlebury have danced around each other in the rankings. In the 90s, Bowdoin was higher ranked. Midd overtook Bowdoin in the early 2000s.
The same kids apply to both schools (along with Williams and Amherst). It used to be that those who didn't get into A&W often ended up at M&B. That's no longer the case.
It's become a total crap shoot, as any parent of a kid who went through the last admissions cycle would tell you. Kids are getting into Dartmouth and WL or rejected at Colby. You could say it's yield protection, but who knows. No wonder schools are relying more heavily on ED rounds. Bright kids, mostly full pay, with great test scores who want to be there? Sounds like a win-win to me.
Worth noting that Amherst and Williams saw declines in application numbers for the class of 2027, while Bowdoin and Midd had record numbers.
This
Lets' not talk about formal glories.
Admission for class of 2027 shows very different pictures than what parents used to remember.
Williams and Amherst is clearly on their way down.
Colby is shooting up and neck to neck with Bowdoin and Midd.
Hamilton, Bates and Wesleyan are right behind it and very close.
Basically, they are all the same.
No significant tier exist here anymore.
https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-admission-rates/
No, admission rate has nothing to do with it.
Bowdoin is test optional. Colby is test optional and has no fee to apply. Middlebury has no supplement.
All these schools are test optional since Covid! Only very few institutions requires them now. (MIT and Georgetown, for example)
Colby, Midd, Bates, Wesleyan Conn College has no supplement. Williams don’t have supplement from this year’s admission cycle.
There’s just too little difference between them to put them into tiers especially when you don’t even believe in numbers.
Anonymous
08/30/2023 14:16
Subject: Re:How would you rank NESCACS academically?
Why doesn't Colby release their common data set, like all other top schools do? What are they hiding? Until they do, I will continue to assume they're gaming the system and that Colby belongs in a close tie with Bates.
Anonymous
08/30/2023 13:17
Subject: How would you rank NESCACS academically?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:every RD matriculant at NESCAC schools were rejected by an ivy - with exception of the bottom of the barrel schools CC, Trinity, Colby and Bates
Objectively untrue, especially considering how many of these schools fill a large proportion of their class via ED.
the point being made is about RD - who cares about ED - those kids only applied to one school and had no other choice
Wow, that's some logic there.
I actually agree with it - am I missing something? the “objectively untrue” comment is very weird
Anonymous
08/30/2023 13:15
Subject: How would you rank NESCACS academically?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Williams, (Minor drop), Bowdoin, Amherst - these are the schools when the mom tells her coworker they respond oh wow they must be very smart
Then middlebury, tufts, (drop), Wesleyan, Hamilton (larger drop) bates, Colby (huge drop) trinity, conn coll
Williams
Amherst & Bowdoin
Middlebury & Tufts
Colby & Bates
Conn College & Trinity College
Williams and Amherst
Bowdoin
Colby and Middlebury
Tufts and Bates
Trinity College and Conn College
Anonymous
08/30/2023 13:09
Subject: Re:How would you rank NESCACS academically?
I think Trinity should be with Bates and above Conn College. One is ranked 39 (with F&M and Lafayette outside of Nescac) and the other is ranked 51. Trinity is an underrated school imo. The neighborhood keeps it down but the academics are great and the roo is high. Plus it has a nice campus esp if you want a Slav experience but in a more city setting. There’s a big diff between Williams and Trinity but otherwise I don’t think there’s as much of a diff as this whole thread is making it seem.
Anonymous
08/30/2023 13:05
Subject: Re:How would you rank NESCACS academically?
Saw this ranking posted today on a separate thread. A year old, so fairly current
He uses data from 2020. And funny that he's focused on the Charles Murray/Middlebury incident from 2017. All of the kids who were at Midd at that time have since graduated. And no students were identified among the group who confronted Murray as he left.