Anonymous wrote:So, I'm coming back to this thread because I can't get it out of my mind.
I think that while most victims of abuse do not go on to abuse, the majority of people who DO abuse, had been abused themselves.
Which is no excuse, but as a PP said, some they flip the role of abuser/abused.
If you look at her comments to the UC, she talks as if the girl will like it, be excited by it. There are no comments of enjoying any force or pain, or anything against the girls' will. It's this fantasy that the girl's world will open up sexually, and she (the woman) will be there to witness it, which is arousing to her.
It's so sick. She's loving the father-daughter dynamic, so...if I were her dad, I'd be worried now as it casts implications on him
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
There was no child; it was an FBI sting.
Not that there couldn't have been other children prior to this.
There was a child in the abuse material she distributed. I hope they can track down who she got it from, who made it, and they all get fried too.
It may well have been her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
There was no child; it was an FBI sting.
Not that there couldn't have been other children prior to this.
There was a child in the abuse material she distributed. I hope they can track down who she got it from, who made it, and they all get fried too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
There was no child; it was an FBI sting.
Not that there couldn't have been other children prior to this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
There was no child; it was an FBI sting.
Not that there couldn't have been other children prior to this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
How about for that poor child she lured to the hotel with her dad, who likely does not have access to the vast resources that her children do.
Anonymous wrote:Finding out more about this, as I read these comments, especially those who know her well. Yes, she can rot in jail forever. It is where she belongs. I hope her two beautiful girls, whom I know well, get all the help, love, and support that they need, fo the rest of their lives. They will need it. I hope that Eleanor never has anything to do with her children again. Never. This is so beyond tragic. My heart bleeds for these girls and their friends. They are brilliant, talented, and just generally lovely kids. Oh God, this hurts.
Anonymous wrote:She had to have been sexually abused at one point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are adults like her okay with hurting children? I don’t understand what mental illness or trauma lets this happen. What she was trying to do to an 8 year old is just so evil. Too evil to understand. And someone that evil should be obvious to all right?
I don’t accept the word “evil” as an explanation for anything.
Same. I want to know why, even if th answer is "psychopath" or whatever it is. With this one, I cannot guess, never heard another case like it.