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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

UVa is actually far more restrictive with deferrals than most schools, deferring only 20 percent. Some schools defer 80 to 100 percent of non acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

I think I remember them saying half the people don’t respond?

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

Also remember that some of us wonder whether it is consistent with the mission of a public university to be giving any legacy advantage whatsoever.

I would agree if legacy kids were getting in with lower stats. But they aren’t (at least at UVA). Legacy admits tend to have higher stats. As someone else said, it’s the final bump between two otherwise equal candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

Also remember that some off us wonder whether it is consistent with the mission of a public university to be giving any legacy advantage whatsoever.

It’s all about getting donors in the pipeline and fostering long-term stewardship. Don’t get me wrong, UVA is an incredible place, but there is a lot of Kool-Aid drinking going on, and hyper competitive NoVa folks play right into it.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

Also remember that some off us wonder whether it is consistent with the mission of a public university to be giving any legacy advantage whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Correct. Dean J’s blog makes it clear that they know, by school, what makes a top applicant. They are also pretty clear that grades and rigor are far more important than SATs. I know DCUM is obsessed with high SATs, but I get the impression UVA is not.

That’s 100% true. My DS was accepted in 2021 with a 1380 but fifth in his class of over 400. He’s a second year with a 3.95 gpa so clearly they made the right decision

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

✔️ DONE

And another angry DCUM parent is born. Remember this thread when the UVA threads go off the rails. Your kid is not owed admission anywhere. I get that you’re sad for then but anger at the school is misplaced.

Never said nor implied admission was warranted.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

✔️ DONE

And another angry DCUM parent is born. Remember this thread when the UVA threads go off the rails. Your kid is not owed admission anywhere. I get that you’re sad for then but anger at the school is misplaced.

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Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Yes, sometimes the admittances don't make sense to us, but we never know what the college is looking for that year and the exact cpmetion in our kids indicated majors.

Our headscratcher last year
CMU admitted
CWRU Deferred

As stated earlier, it makes perfect sense because UVA, for a VA resident, is more selective than UMD and W&M. There is nothing surprising about this. The numbers are publicly available and so situations like these are to be expected.

It's irritating that some posters haven't done their homework and are surprised by certain results. It's true that there are complete head-scratchers out there, but far fewer than people might think.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Correct. Dean J’s blog makes it clear that they know, by school, what makes a top applicant. They are also pretty clear that grades and rigor are far more important than SATs. I know DCUM is obsessed with high SATs, but I get the impression UVA is not.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

✔️ DONE

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Please spare everyone the holistic admission speech. Admissions are random makes more sense than saying the process is holistic. I however understand we like to believe in tooth fairy and Santa Claus.

I understand you are upset, but insulting other posters changes nothing. It isn’t the fault of anyone here that your kid was not accepted.