Anonymous wrote:I always assume it accidental like too much injected that didn’t absorb or heal correctly when it’s plastic surgery.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Why is it wrong to want to look sexy as you age? This makes it sound like you’re going into a nunnery.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it even more shocking that so many young women look bizarrely puffy--giant lips, fillers, etc--when they are in their 20s. But I think that the more celebrities do this the more this weird exaggerated look seems "ok" and not freaky.

Plastic surgery can be an amazing antitode to aging--mostly in good neck/facelists, skin resurfacing and maybe some very well placed subtle filler. It can also ruin your looks completely.

This. I hope my daughters don't do this to themselves.

Anonymous wrote:I have gotten botox since my late 30s and am now (mid 40s) starting to ponder what else in the medspa toolbox might apply to me. Microneedling? Something in the under eye region? What about my neck!?!? But then I look around at the women in the waiting room in their 50s and I wonder - what's the end game? It doesn't look natural. And frankly if I'm honest with myself, the botox doesn't look natural, either. I should have wrinkles on my forehead at this point! One of my most beautiful friends has just passed the tipping point from "how is she 40?!?!" to "she's starting to look weird" and I want to shake her. But it's her choice and I guess if she feels good that's what matters.

We're watching Bad Sisters and I'm struck by the natural teeth, natural aging, etc. and how we just don't allow that of our American celebrities. I find it easier to become absorbed in the characters and story when I'm not distracted by a glass forehead and veneered teeth in a period drama.

Anonymous wrote:I find it even more shocking that so many young women look bizarrely puffy--giant lips, fillers, etc--when they are in their 20s. But I think that the more celebrities do this the more this weird exaggerated look seems "ok" and not freaky.

Plastic surgery can be an amazing antitode to aging--mostly in good neck/facelists, skin resurfacing and maybe some very well placed subtle filler. It can also ruin your looks completely.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

This reads like a bad short story.

And you lost me at NPR—it gas completely jumped the shark,

-A New Englander

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

Except for the cultural appropriation. Just because her ex boyfriend was Indian didn't mean she should be wearing bindis and sarees. I was always so embarrassed for her.

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Anonymous wrote:Some women would rather look weird than old. That’s the reason.

This

Unfortunately they look weird and old.

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

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Anonymous wrote:Every niche culture has their affectations. You can just as easily mock people's nails or tattoos or butt implants or perms or multicolored hair, or weird quilted jackets, or the size of bodies, or any of of the other niche cultures norms circulating in modern society.

People are allowed to choose how they look. And they will. Your opinion on their choices doesn't matter.

No one died and made you the arbiter of beauty.

The public has always been the arbiter of beauty and people pretty much agree that this looks ridiculous. Obviously these people aren’t listening, but so what?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Why is it wrong to want to look sexy as you age? This makes it sound like you’re going into a nunnery.