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Anonymous wrote:You should go to Disney once. There’s no place that compares. It’s the most magical place on earth. I know grown-ups that go every year. It’s not just for young kids. Spend 1 day at each theme park if you can afford it. It’s memorable.

If you think Disney is the most magical place on earth I feel really sorry for you.

NP. Disney is the most magical place on earth!!!

Compared to what? I think Rome might be the most magical place on earth. Have you ever been there?

Anonymous wrote:Disney is overpriced and overcrowded.

The food sucks -even if you have the forethought many months and months out to get a reservation somewhere and don't have to settle for their crap snack offerings.

You have to pick your rides and hit the hot spots according to timelines you don't control otherwise you're waiting in HIDEOUS lines. I don't want to schedule my day with the precision, thought, etc. that is required to make sure you get to see all of the things that you want.

The extras that your young kids will want to do - breakfast with Cinderella and Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique- cost an absolute fortune.

And then the onsite hotels are more of the same, which is preferable due to traveling in and out, and if you have young kids maybe you want to easily go back to the hotel to nap in the heat of the day. Staying offsite to save the money is a tradeoff that you may want to make but it is not a good one, imo.

We did it once with DD and will never go back. Not worth the cost, heat, crowds, fatique at end of day. That money can be much better spent elsewhere.

I personally find it odd that adults choose to vacation there . . . . but whatever. If you're not requiring me to go, then have at it.

Anonymous wrote:Disney is overpriced and overcrowded.

The food sucks -even if you have the forethought many months and months out to get a reservation somewhere and don't have to settle for their crap snack offerings.

You have to pick your rides and hit the hot spots according to timelines you don't control otherwise you're waiting in HIDEOUS lines. I don't want to schedule my day with the precision, thought, etc. that is required to make sure you get to see all of the things that you want.

The extras that your young kids will want to do - breakfast with Cinderella and Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique- cost an absolute fortune.

And then the onsite hotels are more of the same, which is preferable due to traveling in and out, and if you have young kids maybe you want to easily go back to the hotel to nap in the heat of the day. Staying offsite to save the money is a tradeoff that you may want to make but it is not a good one, imo.

We did it once with DD and will never go back. Not worth the cost, heat, crowds, fatique at end of day. That money can be much better spent elsewhere.

I personally find it odd that adults choose to vacation there . . . . but whatever. If you're not requiring me to go, then have at it.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

NP here: safaris provide help funding conservation. Maybe PP isn’t being judgmental, but informed about what their money actually does. I’m not going on a safari anytime soon, and I’m totally going to a Disney family reunion next month. But I can also admit I’m propping up a large corporation. Own your choices instead of calling people names.

It’s a vacation. Not a way to virtue signal.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

NP here: safaris provide help funding conservation. Maybe PP isn’t being judgmental, but informed about what their money actually does. I’m not going on a safari anytime soon, and I’m totally going to a Disney family reunion next month. But I can also admit I’m propping up a large corporation. Own your choices instead of calling people names.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

I do not want to fly to Africa with my 4yo. We are way more down to earth than the people I am thinking of. They are definitely more snobby and won’t go places that they think are LMC/MC.

You can think we are the ones judging. I promise they are far more judgmental.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

what's sad is thinking there is a 'better' way to vacation. do what makes you happy and don't be a judgmental ass.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

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Anonymous wrote:As Dr. Becky would say: two things are true. Disney is a very magical place to take kids at the right age, AND you can visit a lot of other wonderful places and have a great childhood without ever going.

If a family doesn’t have the resources or limited time, of course Disney shouldn’t be the priority.

There are people who have time and money. I think those parents could find a time to take their kid to Disney sometime between ages 2-11.

Will the kid not have a great childhood because s/he didn’t go to Disney? Of course not.

I have many friends who put themselves first. Whether it is work or couples only or adults only trips or trips where they want to go only. I judge them a little. I don’t care that much but it seems selfish to work a lot, have one or two nannies and then not do kid oriented vacations.

There are other kid oriented vacations, doesn’t need to be Disney. Parents who are more in tune with their kids can make any number of culturally destinations fun and interesting beyond a commercialized theme park. The problem is that a lot of parents don’t want to put in that kind of prep work, so they label Disney as THE childhood “must do.”

We went to Europe, Hawaii, national parks, NY and Disney this year. I get that some parents don’t want to put in the work but Disney actually requires a lot of planning. I want my kids to have a childhood full of joy and enrichment. I love to travel. I love Disney. I love my kids. I know not everyone has the time and money. We have the time and money so we don’t have to choose. It isn’t like we are trying to decide between going to Asia or Disney. We can do both.

Weird flex since it’s not always time and money. Some people just don’t like to saturate kids with rampant commercialism and call it a vacation.

“Saturate kids with rampant commercialism.” This thread has some great one liners form the snobby cultural vacation crew. Imma start writing them all down, I think. An elitist journal of sorts, if you will.

There are plenty of other amusement parks you can go to. My kids have been to their share. Disney is a line I won’t cross, though. I see too many posts about people trying to figure out how they’re going to get their rides in, booking things months in advance, bad expensive food, and long lines. No thanks. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you. I will spend my time and money at other places. For the people turning up their noses at the commercialism comments, I’m with the commercialization posters: Disney has a bevy of people behind the scenes figuring out how to optimize on your dollar during your visit. Your pleasure is secondary for them (and they really only care when it means you will spend less money). Again, no thanks.

We have a high income and I actually like the new methods. I don’t mind peak pricing, limited crowds, paying for lightning lanes and staying on resort. Yes, this all adds up and costs $1000 per day for our family of 5. The cost doesn’t bother us. We go on cheap and $$$ vacations. I would say Disney is in the middle.

I think lower income and higher income people tend to turn their noses at it. We have a few friends who only do trips that are for rich people and they are annoying in their own way. They will take their young kids on African safari but not to Disney. I think the short 2 hour flight is great. We all have the same seven figure incomes.

Having been to both Disney and Tanzania, I would take my kids on safari any day over Disney. If you can’t see the qualitative difference, that’s sad.

Well at least we know that PP has a seven figure income.