Anonymous wrote:Over night it’s become conspiracy theorists and unhinged super-aggro weirdos saying columbia is a diploma mill? Seriously?

Among the figures that go into these subscores, the most heavily weighted are graduation rates. U.S. News tells us that (a) 96% of Columbia undergraduates graduate in six years or less, and that (b) the same is true of 95% of undergraduates who held a Pell grant (a government subsidy for needy students) and (c) of 97% of those who did not. Fully 22.6% of the weight in the entire U.S. News ranking rests on these three figures alone. Clearly, U.S. News regards graduation rates as highly representative of the overall quality of a university.

One might be tempted to infer that Columbia is structurally similar to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton and has succeeded in competing with them on their own terms. This is far from being true, however. Columbia is profoundly different from its rivals in that it enrolls an enormous number of transfer students, who are not included in the figures above.

Columbia reported to the government that in Fall 2020, over 30% of its incoming undergraduates were transfer students. This is a larger proportion than at any other Tier I private university (see chart).33 Transfer students at Columbia are mostly enrolled in the School of General Studies, where more than 75% of all students arrive with some transfer credit, but the School of Engineering’s 3-2 Combined Plan may also contribute significant numbers of transfer students.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, people on this board are hilarious. It’s completely plausible that Chapin sent 33% of its students this year to ivies if their 5 year average is 27% as has already been proven by their current matriculation chart that is currently up on their website. They have 60 kids in their graduating classes so 27% would be 16 kids out of 60 vs 33% which is 20 kids out of 60. That’s the difference of four students. Both percentages are top tier numbers.
Considering these students are all female, makes for an even stronger case to send your daughters to one of the top all girls schools. No one on this chat is saying Chapin is better than Brearley simply that Chapin is top tier.

Chapin 2024
We have good results this year but not 33%.
Out of 60 students:
Harvard 1
Yale 1
Princeton 1
Penn 2
Brown 1
Cornell 6

About 20% Ivy bound.
If you take Cornell out (easy to get in for NY), then it's about 10%.

Anonymous wrote:Has something happened to the site? It used to be genuine inquiries into schools in NYC. Over night it’s become conspiracy theorists and unhinged super-aggro weirdos saying columbia is a diploma mill? Seriously? What?And the rest are people saying getting 20% a student body into Ivy Leagues is tier two or pretending to understand admissions processes and selection?

Honestly, WTF? Did something happen?

Great site, but adieu, urbanmom.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person asking about actual data, this is the college list for Horace Mann for the classes of '22, '23, and '24---there are about 180 kids per class. It's a matriculation list, not an acceptance list, so it gives part of the picture:

American University 3
American University of Paris 1
Amherst College 1
Babson College 1
Barnard College 11
Bates College 2
Boston College 8
Boston University 1
Bowdoin College 3
Brandeis University 5
Brown University 12
Bucknell University 1
California State Polytechnic University - San Luis Obispo 1
Carleton College 1
Carnegie Mellon University 1
Case Western Reserve University 2
City University of New York - City College 1
Clark University 1
Colby College 7
Colgate University 5
College of William and Mary 1
Colorado State University - Ft. Collins 1
Columbia University 24
Cornell University 38
Dartmouth College 5
Denison University 1
Dickinson College 1
Duke University 15
Emerson College 2
Emory University (Emory) 17
Emory University (Oxford) 2
Fordham University 1
George Washington University 2
Georgetown University 19
Gettysburg College 2
Hamilton College 4
Harvard University 10
Haverford College 2
Indiana University 3
Johns Hopkins University 1
Lafayette College 1
Lehigh University 4
Loyola University Maryland 1
Michigan State University 2
Middlebury College 1
Mount Holyoke College 2
New York University 16
Northeastern University 3
Northwestern University 9
Oberlin College 3
Pennsylvania State University - Erie 1
Pennsylvania State University - University Park 1
Princeton University 13
Purdue University 4
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 3
Rice University 3
Sarah Lawrence College 1
Scripps College 1
Shenandoah University 1
Skidmore College 2
Smith College 4
Southern Methodist University 1
Spelman College 1
St. John’s University - NY 1
Stanford University 4
State University of New York - Buffalo 1
State University of New York - Plattsburgh 1
State University of New York - Purchase 1
State University of New York - Stony Brook 3
Syracuse University 8
The New School 2
Trinity College 3
Tufts University 10
Tulane University 10
United States Military Academy 2
University of California - Berkeley 2
University of California - Irvine 1
University of California - Los Angeles 3
University of California - San Diego 1
University of Chicago 60
University of Connecticut - Storrs 1
University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign 1
University of Miami 3
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 18
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 1
University of Pennsylvania 17
University of Richmond 1
University of Rochester 7
University of Southern California 11
University of St Andrews 2
University of Texas - Austin 3
University of Virginia 1
University of Washington 1
University of Wisconsin - Madison 2
Vanderbilt University 8
Vassar College 1
Wake Forest University 7
Washington University in St. Louis 6
Wellesley College 2
Wesleyan University 5
Williams College 3
Worcester Polytechnic Institute 1
Xavier University of Louisiana 1
Yale University 11

Why was Univesity of Chicago so popular this year for HM students, 60 students matriculated there?

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Amazing that they sent 24 to Columbia. Impressive.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, people on this board are hilarious. It’s completely plausible that Chapin sent 33% of its students this year to ivies if their 5 year average is 27% as has already been proven by their current matriculation chart that is currently up on their website. They have 60 kids in their graduating classes so 27% would be 16 kids out of 60 vs 33% which is 20 kids out of 60. That’s the difference of four students. Both percentages are top tier numbers.
Considering these students are all female, makes for an even stronger case to send your daughters to one of the top all girls schools. No one on this chat is saying Chapin is better than Brearley simply that Chapin is top tier.

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Anonymous wrote:For the person asking about actual data, this is the college list for Horace Mann for the classes of '22, '23, and '24---there are about 180 kids per class. It's a matriculation list, not an acceptance list, so it gives part of the picture:

American University 3
American University of Paris 1
Amherst College 1
Babson College 1
Barnard College 11
Bates College 2
Boston College 8
Boston University 1
Bowdoin College 3
Brandeis University 5
Brown University 12
Bucknell University 1
California State Polytechnic University - San Luis Obispo 1
Carleton College 1
Carnegie Mellon University 1
Case Western Reserve University 2
City University of New York - City College 1
Clark University 1
Colby College 7
Colgate University 5
College of William and Mary 1
Colorado State University - Ft. Collins 1
Columbia University 24
Cornell University 38
Dartmouth College 5
Denison University 1
Dickinson College 1
Duke University 15
Emerson College 2
Emory University (Emory) 17
Emory University (Oxford) 2
Fordham University 1
George Washington University 2
Georgetown University 19
Gettysburg College 2
Hamilton College 4
Harvard University 10
Haverford College 2
Indiana University 3
Johns Hopkins University 1
Lafayette College 1
Lehigh University 4
Loyola University Maryland 1
Michigan State University 2
Middlebury College 1
Mount Holyoke College 2
New York University 16
Northeastern University 3
Northwestern University 9
Oberlin College 3
Pennsylvania State University - Erie 1
Pennsylvania State University - University Park 1
Princeton University 13
Purdue University 4
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 3
Rice University 3
Sarah Lawrence College 1
Scripps College 1
Shenandoah University 1
Skidmore College 2
Smith College 4
Southern Methodist University 1
Spelman College 1
St. John’s University - NY 1
Stanford University 4
State University of New York - Buffalo 1
State University of New York - Plattsburgh 1
State University of New York - Purchase 1
State University of New York - Stony Brook 3
Syracuse University 8
The New School 2
Trinity College 3
Tufts University 10
Tulane University 10
United States Military Academy 2
University of California - Berkeley 2
University of California - Irvine 1
University of California - Los Angeles 3
University of California - San Diego 1
University of Chicago 60
University of Connecticut - Storrs 1
University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign 1
University of Miami 3
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 18
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 1
University of Pennsylvania 17
University of Richmond 1
University of Rochester 7
University of Southern California 11
University of St Andrews 2
University of Texas - Austin 3
University of Virginia 1
University of Washington 1
University of Wisconsin - Madison 2
Vanderbilt University 8
Vassar College 1
Wake Forest University 7
Washington University in St. Louis 6
Wellesley College 2
Wesleyan University 5
Williams College 3
Worcester Polytechnic Institute 1
Xavier University of Louisiana 1
Yale University 11

Why was Univesity of Chicago so popular this year for HM students, 60 students matriculated there?

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Anonymous wrote:For the person asking about actual data, this is the college list for Horace Mann for the classes of '22, '23, and '24---there are about 180 kids per class. It's a matriculation list, not an acceptance list, so it gives part of the picture:

American University 3
American University of Paris 1
Amherst College 1
Babson College 1
Barnard College 11
Bates College 2
Boston College 8
Boston University 1
Bowdoin College 3
Brandeis University 5
Brown University 12
Bucknell University 1
California State Polytechnic University - San Luis Obispo 1
Carleton College 1
Carnegie Mellon University 1
Case Western Reserve University 2
City University of New York - City College 1
Clark University 1
Colby College 7
Colgate University 5
College of William and Mary 1
Colorado State University - Ft. Collins 1
Columbia University 24
Cornell University 38
Dartmouth College 5
Denison University 1
Dickinson College 1
Duke University 15
Emerson College 2
Emory University (Emory) 17
Emory University (Oxford) 2
Fordham University 1
George Washington University 2
Georgetown University 19
Gettysburg College 2
Hamilton College 4
Harvard University 10
Haverford College 2
Indiana University 3
Johns Hopkins University 1
Lafayette College 1
Lehigh University 4
Loyola University Maryland 1
Michigan State University 2
Middlebury College 1
Mount Holyoke College 2
New York University 16
Northeastern University 3
Northwestern University 9
Oberlin College 3
Pennsylvania State University - Erie 1
Pennsylvania State University - University Park 1
Princeton University 13
Purdue University 4
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 3
Rice University 3
Sarah Lawrence College 1
Scripps College 1
Shenandoah University 1
Skidmore College 2
Smith College 4
Southern Methodist University 1
Spelman College 1
St. John’s University - NY 1
Stanford University 4
State University of New York - Buffalo 1
State University of New York - Plattsburgh 1
State University of New York - Purchase 1
State University of New York - Stony Brook 3
Syracuse University 8
The New School 2
Trinity College 3
Tufts University 10
Tulane University 10
United States Military Academy 2
University of California - Berkeley 2
University of California - Irvine 1
University of California - Los Angeles 3
University of California - San Diego 1
University of Chicago 60
University of Connecticut - Storrs 1
University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign 1
University of Miami 3
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 18
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 1
University of Pennsylvania 17
University of Richmond 1
University of Rochester 7
University of Southern California 11
University of St Andrews 2
University of Texas - Austin 3
University of Virginia 1
University of Washington 1
University of Wisconsin - Madison 2
Vanderbilt University 8
Vassar College 1
Wake Forest University 7
Washington University in St. Louis 6
Wellesley College 2
Wesleyan University 5
Williams College 3
Worcester Polytechnic Institute 1
Xavier University of Louisiana 1
Yale University 11

Why was Univesity of Chicago so popular this year for HM students, 60 students matriculated there?

Anonymous wrote:For the person asking about actual data, this is the college list for Horace Mann for the classes of '22, '23, and '24---there are about 180 kids per class. It's a matriculation list, not an acceptance list, so it gives part of the picture:

American University 3
American University of Paris 1
Amherst College 1
Babson College 1
Barnard College 11
Bates College 2
Boston College 8
Boston University 1
Bowdoin College 3
Brandeis University 5
Brown University 12
Bucknell University 1
California State Polytechnic University - San Luis Obispo 1
Carleton College 1
Carnegie Mellon University 1
Case Western Reserve University 2
City University of New York - City College 1
Clark University 1
Colby College 7
Colgate University 5
College of William and Mary 1
Colorado State University - Ft. Collins 1
Columbia University 24
Cornell University 38
Dartmouth College 5
Denison University 1
Dickinson College 1
Duke University 15
Emerson College 2
Emory University (Emory) 17
Emory University (Oxford) 2
Fordham University 1
George Washington University 2
Georgetown University 19
Gettysburg College 2
Hamilton College 4
Harvard University 10
Haverford College 2
Indiana University 3
Johns Hopkins University 1
Lafayette College 1
Lehigh University 4
Loyola University Maryland 1
Michigan State University 2
Middlebury College 1
Mount Holyoke College 2
New York University 16
Northeastern University 3
Northwestern University 9
Oberlin College 3
Pennsylvania State University - Erie 1
Pennsylvania State University - University Park 1
Princeton University 13
Purdue University 4
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 3
Rice University 3
Sarah Lawrence College 1
Scripps College 1
Shenandoah University 1
Skidmore College 2
Smith College 4
Southern Methodist University 1
Spelman College 1
St. John’s University - NY 1
Stanford University 4
State University of New York - Buffalo 1
State University of New York - Plattsburgh 1
State University of New York - Purchase 1
State University of New York - Stony Brook 3
Syracuse University 8
The New School 2
Trinity College 3
Tufts University 10
Tulane University 10
United States Military Academy 2
University of California - Berkeley 2
University of California - Irvine 1
University of California - Los Angeles 3
University of California - San Diego 1
University of Chicago 60
University of Connecticut - Storrs 1
University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign 1
University of Miami 3
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor 18
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 1
University of Pennsylvania 17
University of Richmond 1
University of Rochester 7
University of Southern California 11
University of St Andrews 2
University of Texas - Austin 3
University of Virginia 1
University of Washington 1
University of Wisconsin - Madison 2
Vanderbilt University 8
Vassar College 1
Wake Forest University 7
Washington University in St. Louis 6
Wellesley College 2
Wesleyan University 5
Williams College 3
Worcester Polytechnic Institute 1
Xavier University of Louisiana 1
Yale University 11

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You can’t look at instagram for reliable data. If you have official data, please post the link. No way Chapin is sending xx % to Ivies.

I think this is the first time seeing someone say Chapin in 1T. No way it is on the same level as Brearley.