Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:
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I guess it takes all kinds, but she does not look pretty at all to me. She's put together, but nothing about her looks is noteworthy. Plus her eyes are looking in two different directions.
I laughed out loud. And you are right.
Given Trump’s own relationship with his mother, it would make sense he would marry a mother figure. I think she was mid-80s
Anonymous wrote:She was really beautiful and kind.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for Ivana because she obviously put up with a lot of abuse in her life. May she rest in peace.
The truth is Ivana and Donald built a wonderful life for themselves and contributed so much to NYC and later the USA. We should all be grateful to them both. RIP Ivana.
I think you need to check her divorce proceedings, which I won't cite here dur to the 48 rule. They don't have anything bad about her, but she had plenty of grounds for divorce, including physical and mental abuse from Trump. Glad she is at peace now.
THIS. And divorcing from/co-parenting with a malignant narcissist/sociopath (x1000 with her particular ex-H) is utter hell; a living nightmare (ask me how I know). I am also positive she was legally gagged from ever uttering a word about it. Truly awful what I'm sure she endured for a very, very long time. And really her entire life after that, not being able to say anything. May she Rest in Peace.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for Ivana because she obviously put up with a lot of abuse in her life. May she rest in peace.
The truth is Ivana and Donald built a wonderful life for themselves and contributed so much to NYC and later the USA. We should all be grateful to them both. RIP Ivana.
I think you need to check her divorce proceedings, which I won't cite here dur to the 48 rule. They don't have anything bad about her, but she had plenty of grounds for divorce, including physical and mental abuse from Trump. Glad she is at peace now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Silicone and Botox do destroy the face, but its not her face that is the tell tale- its more her frail body carriage, stooped posture, the neck wrinkles that we all see in other women in their 80's like Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi. The body changes A LOT in that decade from 78-88 and no amount of plastic surgery will hide it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Such a sad an lonely death! And after a pretty awful life. She always put in a brave face but she was publicly humiliated by Donald so many times and cheated on frequently while married to him. She had strict non disclosure clauses and could never tell the truth about anything. Yeah, she was rich but always looks like she lost. And it all showed - she looked like a 90 year old woman in her recent pictures.
And then to die by falling down her own fancy spiral staircase with no one else there. To die on the floor like that.. it’s just so sad.
I wish my life were so awful.
Don’t wish that, PP. She had money (which is great) but nothing else. She lost her self-respect with him. And then to die like that?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Such a sad an lonely death! And after a pretty awful life. She always put in a brave face but she was publicly humiliated by Donald so many times and cheated on frequently while married to him. She had strict non disclosure clauses and could never tell the truth about anything. Yeah, she was rich but always looks like she lost. And it all showed - she looked like a 90 year old woman in her recent pictures.
And then to die by falling down her own fancy spiral staircase with no one else there. To die on the floor like that.. it’s just so sad.
I wish my life were so awful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding her premature aging, I think we have to remember that her horrible plastic surgery made her look disfigured, like a lopsided smooshed up face. She was so pretty before!
Was she? I keep hearing this claim, but I have never seen pictures of her where she was so pretty.
She was pretty when she was young, before all the plastic surgery:
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I guess it takes all kinds, but she does not look pretty at all to me. She's put together, but nothing about her looks is noteworthy. Plus her eyes are looking in two different directions.
Anonymous wrote:That picture from the 1960s also supports the idea that she was a bit older than she admitted. The picture looks like maybe 1965? When she would be 16? She looks in her twenties in that picture. So my guess is that she was late 70's, not early 70s, and maybe born either during the war or right after.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous[b wrote:]Just speaking hypothetically a child born in the Sudetenland in 1938 could have been[/b]:
* born to Jewish parents who had assimilated ( like Madeline Albright's had) - all were later registered as Jewish and sent to the concentration camps
A very young child could have been hidden with neighbors or distant relatives ( it happened ) . Parents taken away and never returned
* born to Ethnic Germans living in Sudetenland who welcomed Nazis or maybe had a child with a German soldier and then, when Russians occupied, parents were executred as collaborators , leaving a young child ( placed with apartchiks )
or some combo of the above
Its also commonly known that the stasi regularly plumbed the orphanages for their loyal employees. The State would have no problem providing documents for purposes of travel
Your timing is off by about 10 years. Ivana was 73.
Anonymous wrote:Ivana and Donald at Roy Cohn's birthday in 1980 right before her 31st birthday
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Ivana in 1982 at the age of 33.
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No friggin way. She's at least 8-10 years older than her published age.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The whole family is so revoltingly cringe worthy
No class, no refined vocabu, just into boasting and showing off their money.
I cannot imagine a real old money person, like a titled member of British nobility doing that
I would says Ivanka certainly has class and a refined vocabulary.