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Anonymous wrote:[b]Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes? [b]

This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.

It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.

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Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

What a pathetic, tone deaf, privileged response. Peak DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

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Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

+100 A child who manages to qualify for TJ despite experiencing poverty and/or food insecurity, and certainly without discretionary income for enrichment/tutoring, is by definition going to have the grit to do more with the opportunity than a child who has been groomed for this application since 3rd grade.

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Anonymous wrote:[b]Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes? [b]

This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.

It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.

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Anonymous wrote:I guarantee that there are parents of admitted students hiring lawyers to respond. FCPS caused this situation by not asking the question clearly for two years in a row despite many parents pointing out the issues.

If admitted parents band together, I don’t see how FCPS can fight them affectively. There are statements on the FCPS website, in email blasts and in news bulletins from school board members. Many of these contain the words “all students are eligible for free meals”.

The TJ admissions office should have done their jobs and figured out a solution BEFORE sending out offers. Not after the sh!t is already out of the horse.

So you’re saying you are among those who misled TJ admissions?

Sounds like it. If parents “band together” or seek to address the issue through legal means they will be publicly known. How would you like everyone to know that you live in a $1.6 million dollar home but are claiming ignorance on the question?

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Anonymous wrote:My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.

All those embarrassed cheaters who tried to lie their way into TJ and then bragged about admission? Are we supposed to feel bad for them?

Not really, but neither should one necessarily feel special respect for kids whose families rely on state or federal assistance for food and shelter.

I have a lot more respect for kids who manage to do well in school despite poverty than strivers who try to cheat

+100 A child who manages to qualify for TJ despite experiencing poverty and/or food insecurity, and certainly without discretionary income for enrichment/tutoring, is by definition going to have the grit to do more with the opportunity than a child who has been groomed for this application since 3rd grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

Exactly. LMAO at all these morons that think spending money magically makes your kid smart. Why do you think even poor kids in China score higher on IQ tests than middle class students in the US? Spending money doesn't magically develop neural pathways. In fact, education research for decades has found very very weak effects of money spent per student (in the U.S.) on future success. We certainly are spending more money now than ever before, and a disproportionate amount of it in poor areas and on poor children. Have we become more successful, or smarter, in the past 50 years? nope.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

Exactly. LMAO at all these morons that think spending money magically makes your kid smart. Why do you think even poor kids in China score higher on IQ tests than middle class students in the US? Spending money doesn't magically develop neural pathways. In fact, education research for decades has found very very weak effects of money spent per student (in the U.S.) on future success. We certainly are spending more money now than ever before, and a disproportionate amount of it in poor areas and on poor children. Have we become more successful, or smarter, in the past 50 years? nope.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

DP. IQ is largely hereditary, and there is a high correlation between parents' IQ and income levels. It's not at all shocking that upper middle class families where both parents have advanced degrees are generally going to have smarter children than lower class families. Reality is unfortunately politically inconvenient.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?

T It makes sense that dropping 20k on prep classes buys an advantage.

It's also no accident that the schools with the highest HHI were also sending the most students because they can afford to invest in these classes which gain their children and advantage over others who cannot afford it, but I'm guessing you already knew that and just don't care.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.

Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.

What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?