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Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

I think most realistic people know FCPS is not what it was...it's top heavy in gatehouse and meanwhile teachers and students are struggling because they lack what they need to be successful at the school level.

Posters keep saying that but the numbers show otherwise - and teachers don't particularly want textbooks, which is what I assume you mean by "lack what they need".

Did teachers say they didn’t want textbooks?

Yes. Do you listen?

Anonymous wrote:they have 9 weeks that a long time

To hire people? HR is behind in hiring for Summer school/recovery and ESY teachers and IAs. Plus, they still have internal transfers to process. The summer will fly by and everyone will be scrambling at the last minute.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't special ed and other specialized teachers get paid more?

Good question. I always wondered why they’re on the same payscale as general ed.

I think it's because SPED and Gen Ed inclusion teachers work together and deal with the same students. How can you compensate one of them and not the other. You could do it if teachers went back to self contained classrooms but that goes against LRE(Least restrictive environment )

There are many self contained classrooms throughout FCPS schools. Regarding inclusion, the special education teacher is the one handling the goals for kids in inclusive settings. They are also handling reading, writing and/or math in a pull-out setting. They’re doing the IEP paperwork and data collection in addition to lesson planning and grading for students they serve. There’s a reason they leave in droves and a reason they should be compensated at a different rate.

No one is arguing ... but there is a reality and I'm telling you this is one major reason. GEN ED teachers would not be ok with this-they will give you a million reasons how they deal with the IEP too.

+1, many of my students with IEPs are not pulled out. I’m the one (Gen Ed) teacher doing most of the work, besides for writing the IEP.

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Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

I think most realistic people know FCPS is not what it was...it's top heavy in gatehouse and meanwhile teachers and students are struggling because they lack what they need to be successful at the school level.

Posters keep saying that but the numbers show otherwise - and teachers don't particularly want textbooks, which is what I assume you mean by "lack what they need".

Did teachers say they didn’t want textbooks?

they have 9 weeks that a long time

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Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

I think most realistic people know FCPS is not what it was...it's top heavy in gatehouse and meanwhile teachers and students are struggling because they lack what they need to be successful at the school level.

Posters keep saying that but the numbers show otherwise - and teachers don't particularly want textbooks, which is what I assume you mean by "lack what they need".

The issue with FCPS isn't with the number of administrators in Gatehouse. Relative to other school jurisdictions, the percentage of central administrative staff members in FCPS is comparatively low.

The issue, rather, is with the quality of Gatehouse employees. The past several years have exposed the weaknesses in multiple Gatehouse departments, including IT, Academics, HR, and Facilities) and the current School Board's fixation on fringe issues rather than core operations.

Unfortunately, because the tone at the top has been so poor in recent years, public support for additional taxes to increase funding to FCPS - which might allow for the smaller class sizes and better facilities that would help teachers and students - isn't there. So they tread water instead.

Replacing the current School Board next year is critical to get FCPS back on track.

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Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

I think most realistic people know FCPS is not what it was...it's top heavy in gatehouse and meanwhile teachers and students are struggling because they lack what they need to be successful at the school level.

Posters keep saying that but the numbers show otherwise - and teachers don't particularly want textbooks, which is what I assume you mean by "lack what they need".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

I think most realistic people know FCPS is not what it was...it's top heavy in gatehouse and meanwhile teachers and students are struggling because they lack what they need to be successful at the school level.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

Uh, maybe you know that...

Anonymous wrote:Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

In a county the size of FCPS-this is not going to happen. FCPS is messy and it's riding on it's long ago reputation as world premiere....it's not we and all know that.

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Anonymous wrote:Self-contained should be on a separate pay scale, full stop. There's no reason a PE teacher should be on the same pay scale as a teacher who works in an EAC classroom. The requirements to work in self contained should be a lot higher though, too.

Agree 100000%.

No way they can make this happen.

Sped needs to be paid more to attract qualified applicants. It’s not nearly as hard to fill gen ed jobs. But when all the inclusive kids are in one gen ed class, the gen ed teacher should be compensated, as well.

I think stipends should happen for SPED and Gen Ed teachers. SPED teachers with more than 5 IEPS should get a stipend per extra kid. Classroom teachers should get a stipend per kid when class size goes above 25.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't special ed and other specialized teachers get paid more?

Good question. I always wondered why they’re on the same payscale as general ed.

I think it's because SPED and Gen Ed inclusion teachers work together and deal with the same students. How can you compensate one of them and not the other. You could do it if teachers went back to self contained classrooms but that goes against LRE(Least restrictive environment )

There are many self contained classrooms throughout FCPS schools. Regarding inclusion, the special education teacher is the one handling the goals for kids in inclusive settings. They are also handling reading, writing and/or math in a pull-out setting. They’re doing the IEP paperwork and data collection in addition to lesson planning and grading for students they serve. There’s a reason they leave in droves and a reason they should be compensated at a different rate.

No one is arguing ... but there is a reality and I'm telling you this is one major reason. GEN ED teachers would not be ok with this-they will give you a million reasons how they deal with the IEP too.

Anonymous wrote:Self-contained should be on a separate pay scale, full stop. There's no reason a PE teacher should be on the same pay scale as a teacher who works in an EAC classroom. The requirements to work in self contained should be a lot higher though, too.

Agree 100000%.