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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Yes, be sure to tell the people who bought there that they have no sense of style.

The purpose of this forum is to trade views about different issues, including whether particular properties are attractive and are worth what people are paying. I know that, as salespeople, it might be hard for you to read what people are writing because it interrupts the advertising you're trying to do.

Uh, huh, like your aesthetic opinion matters to anyone other than yourself? News flash - it doesn't, and characterizing opposing perspectives as necessarily coming from "salespeople" reveals your insecurity and persistent belief that nobody could possibly disagree with you unless they are financially invested. Why don't you tell us all about your competing property for sale, instead?

When I have a property for sale, I'm not going to use this board to advertise it because I don't need to. If some random person sees my house for sale and decides to start a thread on this board about it, then so be it -- and I'm sure, like any other thread on this board about a property, there will be people who love it and people who hate it. Who cares. Once someone posts a thread on this board, the property is fair game for discussion, both positive and negative. That's how the interwebs works.

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Yes, be sure to tell the people who bought there that they have no sense of style.

The purpose of this forum is to trade views about different issues, including whether particular properties are attractive and are worth what people are paying. I know that, as salespeople, it might be hard for you to read what people are writing because it interrupts the advertising you're trying to do.

Uh, huh, like your aesthetic opinion matters to anyone other than yourself? News flash - it doesn't, and characterizing opposing perspectives as necessarily coming from "salespeople" reveals your insecurity and persistent belief that nobody could possibly disagree with you unless they are financially invested. Why don't you tell us all about your competing property for sale, instead?

What percentage of the properties in that development have you sold?

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Yes, be sure to tell the people who bought there that they have no sense of style.

The purpose of this forum is to trade views about different issues, including whether particular properties are attractive and are worth what people are paying. I know that, as salespeople, it might be hard for you to read what people are writing because it interrupts the advertising you're trying to do.

Uh, huh, like your aesthetic opinion matters to anyone other than yourself? News flash - it doesn't, and characterizing opposing perspectives as necessarily coming from "salespeople" reveals your insecurity and persistent belief that nobody could possibly disagree with you unless they are financially invested. Why don't you tell us all about your competing property for sale, instead?

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Anonymous wrote:does anyone know if they are actually selling at list price?

SDAT is your friend. Search sales by address or subdivision.

the problem is there are very few homes that have actually closed- I did notice on SDAT though that the land on the map for a school is actually owned by Montgomery board of education -- so I'd be very interested if they are actually going to build a new school and what the timeline would look like for that.

I did see a handful. Good point on the school. How long did it take for the new HS at Crown?
As long as Wyngate and/or Ashburton can be expanded, it does not make $$ sense to build a new ES. Maybe the BOE will give back Grosvernor as a neighborhood ES, and stopping using it as a holding school county-wide to the detriment of nearby super crowded ES.

Both Ashburton and Wyngate have already been built out to their maximum sizes (and Ashburton is significant overcrowded, has been for nearly 10 years).

Crown, MCPS waited as long as possible (to the point that if they didn't start building, they would have had to forfeit the land back to the builders).

FYI, all the new Amalyn buyers should know the community fought tooth and nail against the development, taking away their beloved park, as well as large homes on small lots that don't fit in with the existing neighborhood at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Yes, be sure to tell the people who bought there that they have no sense of style.

The purpose of this forum is to trade views about different issues, including whether particular properties are attractive and are worth what people are paying. I know that, as salespeople, it might be hard for you to read what people are writing because it interrupts the advertising you're trying to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Yes, be sure to tell the people who bought there that they have no sense of style.

Anonymous wrote:Toll reps are really pushing hard (and they're getting worse at hiding it -- now their posts are blatantly obvious). Makes you wonder if sales aren't going so well.

Makes you wonder why people feel the need to assume that actual buyers don't know what they're doing.

The market speaks for itself, without regard to snobby holier-than-thou types who feel the need to criticize anonymously, and with no facts - just bald assertions that anyone posting anything favorable must necessarily have a financial interest in selling a property. Perhaps those people have a house to sell which doesn't compare so favorably? Seems just as likely.

Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

Good thing you have unimpeachable good taste compared to those buyers who evidently have none. Or perhaps it's the other way around?

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

They're too greedy to spend on design and good quality and rather put that money in marketing and profit

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Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

They are some of the ugliest houses I've seen. Just a weird mash-up of different styles and materials that don't go together. Design team needs to be fired.

Toll reps are really pushing hard (and they're getting worse at hiding it -- now their posts are blatantly obvious). Makes you wonder if sales aren't going so well.

Anonymous wrote:Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

What? The Amalyn homes and town homes are stunning.

Those Toll Brothers exteriors are remarkably ugly. That takes some effort.

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Anonymous wrote:does anyone know if they are actually selling at list price?

SDAT is your friend. Search sales by address or subdivision.

the problem is there are very few homes that have actually closed- I did notice on SDAT though that the land on the map for a school is actually owned by Montgomery board of education -- so I'd be very interested if they are actually going to build a new school and what the timeline would look like for that.

I did see a handful. Good point on the school. How long did it take for the new HS at Crown?
As long as Wyngate and/or Ashburton can be expanded, it does not make $$ sense to build a new ES. Maybe the BOE will give back Grosvernor as a neighborhood ES, and stopping using it as a holding school county-wide to the detriment of nearby super crowded ES.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are under contract when do you start paying the mortgage and when do you expect to move in? I have no idea how this works.

You pay a deposit when you go under contract. At that point, you then make all your design decisions. You pick your countertops, floors, tile, etc. you also select architectural upgrades like a screened porch, etc. you don’t start paying the mortgage until the house is finished. At that point, we get to inspect it and then once it is ready, we close on it and at that point we start paying the mortgage.

That is the big advantage of building with a large builder vs. a one-off tear down new build. We considered both. Typically with a new custom build, the buyer actually purchases the land and you begin paying the mortgage on the land immediately and then start paying for the construction loan during the construction period. The advantage with the custom horn though is you can truly personalize it, you pick the floor plan, exterior materials, literately everything. There are certain selections with Toll where we didn’t love any of the options (example - the countertops).

Agree that is an advantage, though not always true for tear-downs. Perhaps with a one-off builders or the ones you connected with.

We live in a Bethesda new build-tear down. Builder had purchased the lot. We signed a contract and paid the builder 10% deposit. Made all the selections as you describe (every single countertop--kitchen, laundry room, each bathroom, cabinets, toilettes, showers, tile in each bathroom, color of floor stain, types of stair case banisters...you name it). Once the home was complete, inspected, etc. we went to closing and executed the purchase with a normal 30-year loan.

That said, I do love the idea of a completely new neighborhood with amenities as described inside the beltway-- enjoy your new place!