Anonymous
03/28/2022 11:01
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
2020, a year tons of kids got off waitlists because people changed plans due to covid, not to be confused with 2021 or, perhaps, 2022.
Kids got off WL a lot in 2021 too--maybe not as much at schools like Penn, Brown and Vanderbilt--but at a lot of other schools. Enrollment is just getting harder to predict as top kids are putting in so many apps.
The data in the list I posted earlier is based on 2021 WL.
https://admissionsight.com/the-odds-waitlisted-students-will-get-accepted/
Anonymous
03/28/2022 11:00
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's flat out depressing. I feel like I failed my child and I am not sure what else could have been done but all those years of striving for excellence, working so hard, dong so many ECs, choosing the hardest classes possible to impress colleges - it was all for nothing. With a virtual perfect academic record and a host of passionate ECs, he's rejected/wl everywhere he really wants to go.
He is in a safety schools that literally the class clowns get accepted to. I'm so sick of talking to people about it, everyone in our community assumed he was going to a T5 school - he is practically famous for being so smart - like photographic memory genius smart and they ask me about it constantly. They cant conceal their shock when I tell them the options. I cant deal with the reactions anymore.
This is a sad post.
I hope your child has better luck on Ivy Day.
This happened to a family member. Encourage your child to find a coping mechanism to deal with unexpected rejection, go to the favorite safety, take the core, and apply to transfer to one of the schools he wants to go to.
Best to not go in with this plan. Being a transfer student is really hard (once you get in).
That’s NOT the experience of my kid’s friends who transferred - several did to following schools: UVA, Stanford, USC and others - and in every case the transferring student LOVED the new school and was extremely happy they transferred.
Wow, I didn't know you can transfer to Stanford!
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:54
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
2020, a year tons of kids got off waitlists because people changed plans due to covid, not to be confused with 2021 or, perhaps, 2022.
BC took 2 kids from waitlist at my child’s small private last year.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:53
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
2020, a year tons of kids got off waitlists because people changed plans due to covid, not to be confused with 2021 or, perhaps, 2022.
Kids got off WL a lot in 2021 too--maybe not as much at schools like Penn, Brown and Vanderbilt--but at a lot of other schools. Enrollment is just getting harder to predict as top kids are putting in so many apps.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:49
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
2020, a year tons of kids got off waitlists because people changed plans due to covid, not to be confused with 2021 or, perhaps, 2022.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:49
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
When kids were deferring/taking a gap year due to the pandemic.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:35
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Yes, my friend's son got off WL at UPenn & Brown in 2020
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:26
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Really depends on the school, in recent years VT has accepted thousands off the waitlist and Lehigh has accepted 90% who opted to stay on the WL. Those who are trying hard to increase their yield/reputation and struggle to manage enrollment put a LOT of people on the waitlist and accept a lot who choose to stay on it. Sometimes a school swings back and forth--under-enrolls one year and has to take a lot of the WL, overenrolls the next and doesn't take any. But some schools just use the WL as a strategy always. With students having 20+ schools on the CommonApp, it's getting harder for schools to predict who will attend (other than ED acceptances).
Here's a list with some stats that give at least a rough sense of the variation:
https://admissionsight.com/the-odds-waitlisted-students-will-get-accepted/
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:22
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC - 3.97 unweighted GPA at TJ. Presidential scholar nominee. 36 ACT. National science award winner. Full pay. White.
Accepted early at UVA but waitlisted at Chicago (Chicago called before decisions were out and wanted a hard commit which we declined, which may have been a mistake),
Also waitlisted at Michigan, Carnegie Mellon. Rejected at Hopkins.
Waiting on Ivy day.
Trying to figure out if this is yield protection or this is just a lousy year.
I know an Asian TJ kid with similar stats and good ECs in a very similar boat. I think the problem you run into is that your child has to set themselves apart from other TJ kids, most of whom are academically proficient. In the absence of that, it pretty much devolves into a lottery; one smart TJ kid fits just as well as another smart TJ kid. Additionally, your child is applying to some pretty selective schools, that on the whole, are a lottery in the first place, unless the child has a hook.
The good news is that UVA is a good school, and your smart, motivated child, will do very well there.
I was thinking the same. UVA is a great school! I hope you all have some choices, but having UVA as a go to ain't too shabby! You've got something to celebrate here, even though it's been a crazy tough cycle.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:19
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
This is not relevant to last year and this year
Anonymous
03/28/2022 10:13
Subject: Re:So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Parent of DC who applied last year. We said the same thing. The waitlists will move. They didn’t. Focus on the acceptances, have hope for the remaining, but don’t hold out for a waitlist. The chances are so small.
they may be small but still there, I know one kid from DC private that got off WL at Vandy in May couple of years ago
Anonymous
03/28/2022 09:54
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:I would love to know stats and schools and finances.
My unhooked white ds with 1330/3.8 at a crappy public has gotten in everywhere. Top 30-50. Full pay.
everywhere? Name names or this post is worthless.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 09:41
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's flat out depressing. I feel like I failed my child and I am not sure what else could have been done but all those years of striving for excellence, working so hard, dong so many ECs, choosing the hardest classes possible to impress colleges - it was all for nothing. With a virtual perfect academic record and a host of passionate ECs, he's rejected/wl everywhere he really wants to go.
He is in a safety schools that literally the class clowns get accepted to. I'm so sick of talking to people about it, everyone in our community assumed he was going to a T5 school - he is practically famous for being so smart - like photographic memory genius smart and they ask me about it constantly. They cant conceal their shock when I tell them the options. I cant deal with the reactions anymore.
This is a sad post.
I hope your child has better luck on Ivy Day.
This happened to a family member. Encourage your child to find a coping mechanism to deal with unexpected rejection, go to the favorite safety, take the core, and apply to transfer to one of the schools he wants to go to.
Best to not go in with this plan. Being a transfer student is really hard (once you get in).
That’s NOT the experience of my kid’s friends who transferred - several did to following schools: UVA, Stanford, USC and others - and in every case the transferring student LOVED the new school and was extremely happy they transferred.
DP: On average, though, kids who transfer do struggle with a sense of belonging in the new school. I wouldn't say it's the ideal plan going into a school, unless you are doing a CC to 4 year transfer where there is a clear trajectory and considerable savings.
+1
Anonymous
03/28/2022 09:39
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:DC - 3.97 unweighted GPA at TJ. Presidential scholar nominee. 36 ACT. National science award winner. Full pay. White.
Accepted early at UVA but waitlisted at Chicago (Chicago called before decisions were out and wanted a hard commit which we declined, which may have been a mistake),
Also waitlisted at Michigan, Carnegie Mellon. Rejected at Hopkins.
Waiting on Ivy day.
Trying to figure out if this is yield protection or this is just a lousy year.
I know an Asian TJ kid with similar stats and good ECs in a very similar boat. I think the problem you run into is that your child has to set themselves apart from other TJ kids, most of whom are academically proficient. In the absence of that, it pretty much devolves into a lottery; one smart TJ kid fits just as well as another smart TJ kid. Additionally, your child is applying to some pretty selective schools, that on the whole, are a lottery in the first place, unless the child has a hook.
The good news is that UVA is a good school, and your smart, motivated child, will do very well there.
Anonymous
03/28/2022 09:31
Subject: So much disappointment this week
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's flat out depressing. I feel like I failed my child and I am not sure what else could have been done but all those years of striving for excellence, working so hard, dong so many ECs, choosing the hardest classes possible to impress colleges - it was all for nothing. With a virtual perfect academic record and a host of passionate ECs, he's rejected/wl everywhere he really wants to go.
He is in a safety schools that literally the class clowns get accepted to. I'm so sick of talking to people about it, everyone in our community assumed he was going to a T5 school - he is practically famous for being so smart - like photographic memory genius smart and they ask me about it constantly. They cant conceal their shock when I tell them the options. I cant deal with the reactions anymore.
This is a sad post.
I hope your child has better luck on Ivy Day.
This happened to a family member. Encourage your child to find a coping mechanism to deal with unexpected rejection, go to the favorite safety, take the core, and apply to transfer to one of the schools he wants to go to.
Best to not go in with this plan. Being a transfer student is really hard (once you get in).
That’s NOT the experience of my kid’s friends who transferred - several did to following schools: UVA, Stanford, USC and others - and in every case the transferring student LOVED the new school and was extremely happy they transferred.
DP: On average, though, kids who transfer do struggle with a sense of belonging in the new school. I wouldn't say it's the ideal plan going into a school, unless you are doing a CC to 4 year transfer where there is a clear trajectory and considerable savings.