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Anonymous wrote:At this stage Youngkin has every right not to wear a mask while the bellowing shopper has every right to wear a mask.

Is he also free to ignore no shirt/no shoes/no service signs?

No, he should abide by the property owners rules.

Was there a rule in this store requiring a mask?

NO! I shop there.

What store was it?

People need to stop claiming, into their own echo chamber, that Youngkin was deliberately not wearing a mask in defiance of a mask requirement at Safeway. This is the Safeway at the Bermuda Triangle of Quaker/King/Braddock next to Bradlee Shopping Center. It looks like a space ship or something out of Star Wars. If you are familiar with Alexandria you know exactly where tis is.

There is NO mask requirement for this grocery store. None. There used to be a sign that asked you to wear a mask if you hadn't been vaccinated, but I don't know if that has been taken down. Regardless, Youngkin has already publicly stated he is vaccinated. He didn't have to wear a mask there. People need to unclench and let go.

I was at two Aldis today, the one on Monroe in Del Ray and the one on Duke near Foxchase. Both had small signs you could barely see inside that said masks were encouraged if you weren't vaccinated. There is no mask mandate in Alexandria. Businesses I believe can require masks, but most are NOT doing it. Please stop the insanity with just assuming there are mask requirements or that all Alexandrians wear masks. Screaming at each other, shaming people, it's pitiful.

Anonymous wrote:For me, it’s not about the mask. It’s about a governor, poking his finger in the eye of his constituents to score cheap points. I stand by my initial assessment. He’s a tool.

Exactly. Any halfway decent governor would make some attempt to "read the room".

He's just a DB.

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Anonymous wrote:The mask obsessed people on this thread sound unhinged. The rest of the country is finally moving on. How about focusing on long term solutions instead? Like the fat lady who screamed in the store? What would be better for her - and for all as her condition increases the health care costs to others - than the useless cloth mask she is wearing is if she dropped the extra weight.

It’s much easier to put a piece of cloth on your face than to do things that actually matter in terms of Covid prevention. And I say this as a triple vaxxers, still has Covid Dem.

The rest of the country is moving on?

Have we declared “Mission Accomplished” yet? When we start approaching endemic numbers is when we should be ready to move on. We are certainly beginning to trend in that direction but we are not yet there.

Omicron served some good in exposing those who refused to vax while fortunately being milder. This certainly wasn’t true for everyone but we could have certainly achieved herd immunity and been out of this mess sooner if the anti-mask freedom fighters would have just taken the jab. Instead they dragged this pandemic out by kicking and screaming over every perceived slight or injustice.

So for the love of God, just STFU for 3-4 more months, wear a stupid mask for 30 minutes of your petty life so we can all move on.

These adults throwing tantrums are beyond exhausting.

Grow TF up and act like a decent human for a tiny fraction of your miserable life.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, it’s not about the mask. It’s about a governor, poking his finger in the eye of his constituents to score cheap points. I stand by my initial assessment. He’s a tool.

You’re free to think that. Others might think you’re the tool for expecting other people to do what you think they should do, even if it is not mandated.

Yes, well there are always people who lack basic manners around.

There are plenty of well-mannered, courteous people in this country who simply don’t ascribe as much importance to the mask as you do. But whatever you have to tell yourself, I guess.

They are not “well mannered” or “courteous” if they deny the proven effectiveness of masks and flaunt their selfishness as some sort of political badge of honor.

Or...they can just do the math re risk and do a cost/benefit analysis re masks. Like citizens of other counties, states, countries are doing everyday. Same decision a driver makes if they drive over the speed limit.

They are putting other people at risk againt their will. Just like a driver does when they drive over the speed limit. That's not "well mannered" by any definition.

LOL Welcome to life on planet Earth, buddy. If you want a life with absolutely zero risk from any other person, then go live on your own in the woods. This is why nobody can take your irrational risk assessments seriously. Sane people understand life involves risk. They make risk calculations and move on. You simply cannot expect a life among other humans that doesn’t involve some type of risk. And you need to cope with the fact that other people assess risk differently than you do.

Ok, well, speeding is illegal. Do you want mask wearing to be legislated the same way?

No, because traffic laws are a very direct and reasonable mitigating force against accidents. In 2022 when we have vaccines and boosters available, and the risk of bad outcomes from Covid is exceedingly low, there is no good reason to mandate masks. Otherwise we would still have a mask mandate.

Here’s where I should clarify. Life is not without risk. However, there is a certain baseline amount of risk mitigation we agree to and accept, due to the significant and meaningful potential for danger to all segments of society. Drinking laws, traffic laws, public safety laws, etc. But beyond that, individuals are free to make their own choices, should they feel enhanced risk mitigation is required. You cannot expect others to feel the same, and you certainly cannot force or mandate them to, nor should you be able to. It is not someone else’s responsibility to soothe your sense of overstated risk.

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage Youngkin has every right not to wear a mask while the bellowing shopper has every right to wear a mask.

Is he also free to ignore no shirt/no shoes/no service signs?

No, he should abide by the property owners rules.

Was there a rule in this store requiring a mask?

NO! I shop there.

I don't recall seeing a mask requirement at any store in Virginia, even in places like Arlington. Even Whole Foods just has a mask suggestion.

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Anonymous wrote:The mask obsessed people on this thread sound unhinged. The rest of the country is finally moving on. How about focusing on long term solutions instead? Like the fat lady who screamed in the store? What would be better for her - and for all as her condition increases the health care costs to others - than the useless cloth mask she is wearing is if she dropped the extra weight.

It’s much easier to put a piece of cloth on your face than to do things that actually matter in terms of Covid prevention. And I say this as a triple vaxxers, still has Covid Dem.

The rest of the country is moving on?

Have we declared “Mission Accomplished” yet? When we start approaching endemic numbers is when we should be ready to move on. We are certainly beginning to trend in that direction but we are not yet there.

Omicron served some good in exposing those who refused to vax while fortunately being milder. This certainly wasn’t true for everyone but we could have certainly achieved herd immunity and been out of this mess sooner if the anti-mask freedom fighters would have just taken the jab. Instead they dragged this pandemic out by kicking and screaming over every perceived slight or injustice.

So for the love of God, just STFU for 3-4 more months, wear a stupid mask for 30 minutes of your petty life so we can all move on.

NO. It's up to each business owner what their mask policies are. If it's not required anyone can forego it. Also, you don't know their health info. If they have asthma etc. Not to mention it's no ones business to police another patron at some store. Unhinged people need to leave others alone.

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage Youngkin has every right not to wear a mask while the bellowing shopper has every right to wear a mask.

Is he also free to ignore no shirt/no shoes/no service signs?

No, he should abide by the property owners rules.

Was there a rule in this store requiring a mask?

NO! I shop there.

What store was it?

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage Youngkin has every right not to wear a mask while the bellowing shopper has every right to wear a mask.

Is he also free to ignore no shirt/no shoes/no service signs?

No, he should abide by the property owners rules.

Was there a rule in this store requiring a mask?

NO! I shop there.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, it’s not about the mask. It’s about a governor, poking his finger in the eye of his constituents to score cheap points. I stand by my initial assessment. He’s a tool.

You’re free to think that. Others might think you’re the tool for expecting other people to do what you think they should do, even if it is not mandated.

Yes, well there are always people who lack basic manners around.

There are plenty of well-mannered, courteous people in this country who simply don’t ascribe as much importance to the mask as you do. But whatever you have to tell yourself, I guess.

They are not “well mannered” or “courteous” if they deny the proven effectiveness of masks and flaunt their selfishness as some sort of political badge of honor.

Or...they can just do the math re risk and do a cost/benefit analysis re masks. Like citizens of other counties, states, countries are doing everyday. Same decision a driver makes if they drive over the speed limit.

They are putting other people at risk againt their will. Just like a driver does when they drive over the speed limit. That's not "well mannered" by any definition.

LOL Welcome to life on planet Earth, buddy. If you want a life with absolutely zero risk from any other person, then go live on your own in the woods. This is why nobody can take your irrational risk assessments seriously. Sane people understand life involves risk. They make risk calculations and move on. You simply cannot expect a life among other humans that doesn’t involve some type of risk. And you need to cope with the fact that other people assess risk differently than you do.

Ok, well, speeding is illegal. Do you want mask wearing to be legislated the same way?

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Anonymous wrote:At this stage Youngkin has every right not to wear a mask while the bellowing shopper has every right to wear a mask.

Is he also free to ignore no shirt/no shoes/no service signs?

No, he should abide by the property owners rules.

Was there a rule in this store requiring a mask?

Anonymous wrote:That woman was exactly right. To paraphrase Lisa Murkowski, these politicians need to start realizing that they represent the people of their state, not the heads of their party. Irresponsible behavior on Youngkin's part and he should be called out in public for it.

Youngkin has been consistent in his views about masking: they should be a personal choice. Why would he align his behavior with the views of people who disagree with this?

You may not agree with him, but he has no need to cater to the beliefs of his constituents who disagree with him. His behavior in this instance aligned with the law and the requirements of the property owner. Some hysterical weirdo at the store doesn't get to set the rules.

Basically, the mask fanatics in this thread want Youngkin to ditch his clearly stated position on mask-wearing to appease them. I doubt many of these posters voted for him, so why would he care about their opinions, one way or the other?

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Anonymous wrote:The mask obsessed people on this thread sound unhinged. The rest of the country is finally moving on. How about focusing on long term solutions instead? Like the fat lady who screamed in the store? What would be better for her - and for all as her condition increases the health care costs to others - than the useless cloth mask she is wearing is if she dropped the extra weight.

It’s much easier to put a piece of cloth on your face than to do things that actually matter in terms of Covid prevention. And I say this as a triple vaxxers, still has Covid Dem.

The rest of the country is moving on?

Have we declared “Mission Accomplished” yet? When we start approaching endemic numbers is when we should be ready to move on. We are certainly beginning to trend in that direction but we are not yet there.

Omicron served some good in exposing those who refused to vax while fortunately being milder. This certainly wasn’t true for everyone but we could have certainly achieved herd immunity and been out of this mess sooner if the anti-mask freedom fighters would have just taken the jab. Instead they dragged this pandemic out by kicking and screaming over every perceived slight or injustice.

So for the love of God, just STFU for 3-4 more months, wear a stupid mask for 30 minutes of your petty life so we can all move on.

No, I won't. Certainly not in places where there's no mask mandate or requirement by the property owner.

Now what are you going to do about it?

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Anonymous wrote:The poster above has it.

Things like pandemics, masks and vaccines were never political - until Trump and his whackadoodle MAGAism made them political.

Except there are many of us who don’t fall into the shape of your MAGA caricature. We dutifully wore our masks when mandated, and got our vaccines when they became available. You need to give up the Trump card, seriously.

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They won't, though. They're hanging on to their Trump card (nice one, btw) and MAGA caricatures for dear life because it's all they have in the face of Biden's failures and Covid becoming endemic. Life will go back to normal, but they simply can't bear the thought of losing whatever power they think they have over the rest of us.

Youngkin and other Republicans are attacking masks and public safety measures for no genuinely good reason other than politics. Fine if you don't want to hear it tied to MAGA or Trumpism but what you cannot do is claim public health measures haven't been assaulted, undermined and politicized by the right wing in completely new and unprecedented ways.

And for people on the left, it has nothing to do with science or public health, either. For you, a mask is just a symbol to your fellow travelers about how virtuous you are. It’s no different than a MAGA hat.

Not wearing a mask is the same as wearing a MAGA hat.

Mask wearing is virtue signaling? Is that virtue signaling like finding a way to work the American flag into social media profile pic? Slapping a Blue Lives matter sticker on your pickup truck window, posting “thank a vet” on social media for every Holiday or crying during the National Anthem at a little league game?

In order of your questions, Yes, yes, yes, and maybe.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, it’s not about the mask. It’s about a governor, poking his finger in the eye of his constituents to score cheap points. I stand by my initial assessment. He’s a tool.

You’re free to think that. Others might think you’re the tool for expecting other people to do what you think they should do, even if it is not mandated.

Yes, well there are always people who lack basic manners around.

There are plenty of well-mannered, courteous people in this country who simply don’t ascribe as much importance to the mask as you do. But whatever you have to tell yourself, I guess.

They are not “well mannered” or “courteous” if they deny the proven effectiveness of masks and flaunt their selfishness as some sort of political badge of honor.

Or...they can just do the math re risk and do a cost/benefit analysis re masks. Like citizens of other counties, states, countries are doing everyday. Same decision a driver makes if they drive over the speed limit.

They are putting other people at risk againt their will. Just like a driver does when they drive over the speed limit. That's not "well mannered" by any definition.

LOL Welcome to life on planet Earth, buddy. If you want a life with absolutely zero risk from any other person, then go live on your own in the woods. This is why nobody can take your irrational risk assessments seriously. Sane people understand life involves risk. They make risk calculations and move on. You simply cannot expect a life among other humans that doesn’t involve some type of risk. And you need to cope with the fact that other people assess risk differently than you do.

Anonymous wrote:That woman was exactly right. To paraphrase Lisa Murkowski, these politicians need to start realizing that they represent the people of their state, not the heads of their party. Irresponsible behavior on Youngkin's part and he should be called out in public for it.

Same with Stacey Abrams, right? A women in her risk category should not be unmasked. Really ever.