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Anonymous wrote:Forcing people into buses to commute to DC will just end up with people not commuting to DC. This may be fine, but don't think people these days no longer have any choice. They'll just say no, WFH. And that will be the end of it.

Ok, so? Are you threatening us with a few vacant offices? We could use slightly lower real estate prices. Maybe some conversions to affordable housing.

You might be the only person that I’ve ever heard of cheer on a glut of commercial office space. You realize that’s not a good thing, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Most recent available Census ACS data (2019) shows the following stats on commuting by DC residents
127k drive alone
21k carpool or vanpool
133k take mass transit
51k walk
25k ride bikes, motorcycles, or take taxi
28k worked from home

Fewer should be driving alone, more should be taking mass transit and other methods.

As indicated by this data, it would not even be justifiable if these were combined bicycle, motorcycle and taxi lanes. But they are solely bike lanes,

Wait, you don't think devoting any space at all to something used by 25,000 people would be justified? How's that? By your standard, should we also rip out the sidewalks, since only 51,000 people walk to work, which is clearly not as many as drive, carpool, or mass transit?

127k driving by themselves with nobody else in the car is the single biggest problem. That could be turned into 7k buses and massively reduce traffic.

But instead we have whiny entitled a-holes who think they need their own dedicated lane for themselves with their one person per car BS.

Exactly. We need to put tollbooths at every entrance to DC - $50 per vehicle, 5am-11am weekdays. 100% discount for HOV3+. Take all the revenue and put it into increasing Metro, VRE, and MARC service and expand park and ride/metro lots greatly while reducing prices.

Sounds like a great plan… to destroy DCs economy.

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Anonymous wrote:Most recent available Census ACS data (2019) shows the following stats on commuting by DC residents
127k drive alone
21k carpool or vanpool
133k take mass transit
51k walk
25k ride bikes, motorcycles, or take taxi
28k worked from home

Fewer should be driving alone, more should be taking mass transit and other methods.

As indicated by this data, it would not even be justifiable if these were combined bicycle, motorcycle and taxi lanes. But they are solely bike lanes,

Wait, you don't think devoting any space at all to something used by 25,000 people would be justified? How's that? By your standard, should we also rip out the sidewalks, since only 51,000 people walk to work, which is clearly not as many as drive, carpool, or mass transit?

127k driving by themselves with nobody else in the car is the single biggest problem. That could be turned into 7k buses and massively reduce traffic.

But instead we have whiny entitled a-holes who think they need their own dedicated lane for themselves with their one person per car BS.

Exactly. We need to put tollbooths at every entrance to DC - $50 per vehicle, 5am-11am weekdays. 100% discount for HOV3+. Take all the revenue and put it into increasing Metro, VRE, and MARC service and expand park and ride/metro lots greatly while reducing prices.

Anonymous wrote:Forcing people into buses to commute to DC will just end up with people not commuting to DC. This may be fine, but don't think people these days no longer have any choice. They'll just say no, WFH. And that will be the end of it.

Ok, so? Are you threatening us with a few vacant offices? We could use slightly lower real estate prices. Maybe some conversions to affordable housing.

Forcing people into buses to commute to DC will just end up with people not commuting to DC. This may be fine, but don't think people these days no longer have any choice. They'll just say no, WFH. And that will be the end of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of liking the image of slug lines with 16th Street as HOV only during rush hour. Zip zip.

The proper image is a fully protected lane only for carpool that bicycles are never allowed to use.

This sounds great to me, if it gets all the carpool drivers out of the rest of the road and, because it makes carpooling easier, also encourages more carpooling. And I either bike or Metro to work. If you think "ooh, how about a CARPOOL LANE???" is supposed to be some trump card that makes people who don't think our current transportation policy makes sense shut up, you're not paying attention to the reasons people support bike lanes and more transit.

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Turn the underutilized bike lanes into Lexus lanes for use by carpoolers and those willing to fork over $10+ dollars a trip for speedy access into and out of the city.

F the Lexus lane people. Come up with a solution for the rest of us.

That is a solution. It’s called congestion pricing. If you can’t afford it take the bus and traffic will be better for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Most recent available Census ACS data (2019) shows the following stats on commuting by DC residents
127k drive alone
21k carpool or vanpool
133k take mass transit
51k walk
25k ride bikes, motorcycles, or take taxi
28k worked from home

Fewer should be driving alone, more should be taking mass transit and other methods.

As indicated by this data, it would not even be justifiable if these were combined bicycle, motorcycle and taxi lanes. But they are solely bike lanes,

Wait, you don't think devoting any space at all to something used by 25,000 people would be justified? How's that? By your standard, should we also rip out the sidewalks, since only 51,000 people walk to work, which is clearly not as many as drive, carpool, or mass transit?

127k driving by themselves with nobody else in the car is the single biggest problem. That could be turned into 7k buses and massively reduce traffic.

But instead we have whiny entitled a-holes who think they need their own dedicated lane for themselves with their one person per car BS.

Yep.

There is seriously something in the air here that I've never seen in other cities I've lived in. Even Philadelphia, which is infamous for its rude populace, doesn't have the same level of entitlement and cutthroat culture. People here are very zero-sum. Everything has to have a winning and a losing side, even things that aren't sided.

It's disheartening.

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Anonymous wrote:Most recent available Census ACS data (2019) shows the following stats on commuting by DC residents
127k drive alone
21k carpool or vanpool
133k take mass transit
51k walk
25k ride bikes, motorcycles, or take taxi
28k worked from home

Fewer should be driving alone, more should be taking mass transit and other methods.

As indicated by this data, it would not even be justifiable if these were combined bicycle, motorcycle and taxi lanes. But they are solely bike lanes,

Wait, you don't think devoting any space at all to something used by 25,000 people would be justified? How's that? By your standard, should we also rip out the sidewalks, since only 51,000 people walk to work, which is clearly not as many as drive, carpool, or mass transit?

127k driving by themselves with nobody else in the car is the single biggest problem. That could be turned into 7k buses and massively reduce traffic.

But instead we have whiny entitled a-holes who think they need their own dedicated lane for themselves with their one person per car BS.

Turn the underutilized bike lanes into Lexus lanes for use by carpoolers and those willing to fork over $10+ dollars a trip for speedy access into and out of the city.

F the Lexus lane people. Come up with a solution for the rest of us.

Anonymous wrote:Turn the underutilized bike lanes into Lexus lanes for use by carpoolers and those willing to fork over $10+ dollars a trip for speedy access into and out of the city.

My commute into dc from VA burbs to the dc boarder was 17 miles and about 15 mins pre-pandemic. Going the 2-3 miles to my office from there was the time suck. 15-20 mins.

Cutting that time in half would have been worth the extra expanse.

Absolutely. HOT lanes absolutely makes the most sense.

Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of liking the image of slug lines with 16th Street as HOV only during rush hour. Zip zip.

The proper image is a fully protected lane only for carpool that bicycles are never allowed to use.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most recent available Census ACS data (2019) shows the following stats on commuting by DC residents
127k drive alone
21k carpool or vanpool
133k take mass transit
51k walk
25k ride bikes, motorcycles, or take taxi
28k worked from home

Fewer should be driving alone, more should be taking mass transit and other methods.

As indicated by this data, it would not even be justifiable if these were combined bicycle, motorcycle and taxi lanes. But they are solely bike lanes,

Wait, you don't think devoting any space at all to something used by 25,000 people would be justified? How's that? By your standard, should we also rip out the sidewalks, since only 51,000 people walk to work, which is clearly not as many as drive, carpool, or mass transit?

Okay so DC should also have dedicated and protected carpool lanes on major roads that only carpools can use and no other road users can access. Seems fair right? There are way more carpoolers than bicycle commuters after all.

Carpool lanes would be cool. Maybe combined with a bus lane on 16th st. But you all would cheat anyway.

Nope. Cannot be combined. No one else can use it. Dedicated and protected carpool lane only.

Anonymous wrote:Turn the underutilized bike lanes into Lexus lanes for use by carpoolers and those willing to fork over $10+ dollars a trip for speedy access into and out of the city.

My commute into dc from VA burbs to the dc boarder was 17 miles and about 15 mins pre-pandemic. Going the 2-3 miles to my office from there was the time suck. 15-20 mins.

Cutting that time in half would have been worth the extra expanse.

Or better yet. Increase the number of dedicated bus lanes during rush hours. This promotes public transport and is environmentally friendly.

Turn the underutilized bike lanes into Lexus lanes for use by carpoolers and those willing to fork over $10+ dollars a trip for speedy access into and out of the city.

My commute into dc from VA burbs to the dc boarder was 17 miles and about 15 mins pre-pandemic. Going the 2-3 miles to my office from there was the time suck. 15-20 mins.

Cutting that time in half would have been worth the extra expanse.