Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 22:04     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:



I predict this mess is going to lead to a re-evaluation of the active shooter plans on the part of law enforcement and school admin response.








I hope that reevaluation includes reinstatement of SROs.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 22:03     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:



I predict this mess is going to lead to a re-evaluation of the active shooter plans on the part of law enforcement and school admin response.








So you think the current plan doesn't call for getting potential victims to safety asap?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 22:00     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting




I predict this mess is going to lead to a re-evaluation of the active shooter plans on the part of law enforcement and school admin response.






Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:53     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Imagine a second accomplice sitting in a locked classroom for hours with no food, water or bathroom getting stressed and antsy for hours.

What they think they know and what they actually know are 2 different things.
Protocol should dictate removing the students and staff as quickly as possible.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:51     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
That's why they should have been clearing those classrooms like we have all seen too many times with students being led out of the building to safety.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:49     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not defending poor communication but this doesn't sound like a "typical" school shooting situation (I know that sounds terrible). If the victim couldn't communicate or identify the shooter while he is bleeding/seriously wounded, then it is going to take some time to figure out who the shooter is/where he is.

We're often quick to blame administration, police, etc. when all the blame should be placed on the shooter (and possibly his parents).


I don’t fault administration either. They didn’t want to tip the suspect off. This was a complicated situation.


The police initially said the shooter had left the building on foot. That's what they saw on a camera. They didn't know the actual shooter was still in the building.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:48     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

I'm sorry you had to experience this.
Can you confirm:
so no food, drink or bathrooms.
and held an additional hour to wait for the super.
and suspect was among the student body for 2 hours before apprehended (when parents? thought the threat was over)? Did you realize shooter was still at the school?


We were on lockdown. Police wouldn’t let us leave rooms for any reason. School was treated as a crime scene basically, so no one could leave rooms. No food or drink except for what kids had on them. It’s not like the cafeteria was open or anything.

We were not given any details or updates while in the building regarding events going on. Except for a photo sent out asking if that person was in anyone’s room. Not sure if that person was directly involved or not. No information about ongoing threats, suspect in a room. The issue was first treated as a health issue when the boy was found and ambulances were called. The school was put on lockdown to allow ambulance personnel to arrive. The first thought is that he injured himself intentionally but there was no knife. Then there was the realization that it must be a gunshot when the ambulance crew determined the injury, but no gun was found. So obviously there must be another student involved. It took time to ID the student, determine location and make a plan to remove student from the classroom safely. That explains the two hours of time needed before the suspect was apprehended and the lack of communication so that no one was tipped off.

Once he was apprehended, evidence collected , and they made sure no one was involved then the moved to securing the building and removing students. At that point there were 35 police cars and overhead news chopper and the local inspections had been closed backing up all the traffic. Obviously McKnight and others didn’t have a helicopter to arrive on site. Traffic was backed up for miles. Kids could leave in until buses arrived which is also when the McKnight and other staff were finally able arrive. There was not conspiracy or anything. Just traffic. Staff stayed until almost 7pm when we had a short meeting with no details given except a reference to “health emergency” and introductions to the the county staff in charge of things going forward. They asked us not to give interviews.


The police knew immediately that the student had been shot. He told the nurse when she arrived in the restroom. It was no secret what happened. He told the emergency department staff he had been shot by another student.
Traffic was not backed up. The road was closed and by around 4:00 forty buses were lined up outside. But students weren't allowed to leave for over two hours. Buses where there.
You were inside the building. You weren't listening to the police scanner or watching the video from the helicopter overhead. The public knew and saw what you did not.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:45     Subject: Re:Magruder HS Shooting
Omg. I’d like to see any of you try to find a shooter in a school, communicate with parents, feed everyone and let them use bathrooms and find ways home for everyone.

I think you all forgot that educators should NOT have to deal with guns in the first place! The fact everyone thinks THAT is normal is mega effed up. Celebrities have to travel with wound dressing kits in case they are shot.

This is not normal.

Guns usage like ours in the US is not normal.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:44     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:There's a HUGE difference between "the coast is clear" and "we are working to evaluate the situation. "

Lying to thousands of students, staff and parents is a disaster!


PP again. Why a disaster? Everyone remained safe and calm. The outcome might have been different if details were released. Parents would’ve raced to the school, the kids would be in a panic, the suspect would’ve been tipped off snd perhaps his arrest would’ve been very difficult with more people injured.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:42     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
And the kids sitting next to the shooter while getting texts saying "Alls clear, kids" must feel really great about your Stockholm syndrome ass kissing of this inept clown show.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:41     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.


Sorry you had this happen at your school.

Why were you held hostage without bathrooms for 3 hours after the shooter had already been detained?


NP, I’m assuming that was a law enforcement decision.


My kid knows several kids at the school and was texting with them throughout. Word is the gun was not with the shooter when apprehended and they had to find the weapon and then clear the school for safety.


Because there was a police investigation going on. C’mon.

And then what?????? 3 hours of no bathrooms or food.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:41     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There’s just been too many excuses and too much “bad luck” this school year in MCPS. McKnight has proven incapable of keeping our kids safe from COVID or violence.

I feel bad for all these kids who have had to live through this pandemic and now have this trauma on top of it. I hope that MCPS is able to at least provide counseling, if it’s capable of doing anything but I’m not holding out hope.

I’m just absolutely done with the this school system.


Get a grip. Vote for politicians against guns. Educators are not responsible for how easy it is to get a gun and for lack of mental health resources. You’re blaming the wrong people.


MD is hardly a state where it's easy to get a gun, at least compared to neighboring states like WV, PA, and VA.

I will definitley be voting against every incumbent BOE member, but I usually do that. Same with County Council who pushed hard to get rid of SROs. The only sane one on the Council is Friedson.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:41     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
There's a HUGE difference between "the coast is clear" and "we are working to evaluate the situation. "

Lying to thousands of students, staff and parents is a disaster!
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:40     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an ARMED shooter in the school for TWO HOURS and they said "no threat."

Read that again.


It would’ve been mass panic if they hadn’t.


Fair point.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 21:39     Subject: Magruder HS Shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an ARMED shooter in the school for TWO HOURS and they said "no threat."

Read that again.


It would’ve been mass panic if they hadn’t.


You are an idiot.


They were in lockdown with an armed shooter.
They should have been actively filing students and staff out, classroom by classroom, and searching for the gun and the shooter.