Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:45
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Again, there is no edge. Athletes are not competing against non-athletes for a seat. If the school has a sports team they are going to need an athlete to field the team. Athlete candidates are competing against themselves.
That is correct: Schools recruit athletes to fill spots in their schools because they are, in fact, in the athletic team business. Conversely, if schools were not concerned with fielding teams, there would be no need to, say, give an athlete an edge in applying to an engineering program.
Exactly right.
Not sure why this news to you. It’s been like this for a 100+ years. This is what US colleges offer which happens to be the envy of the world.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:45
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Again, there is no edge. Athletes are not competing against non-athletes for a seat. If the school has a sports team they are going to need an athlete to field the team. Athlete candidates are competing against themselves.
That is correct: Schools recruit athletes to fill spots in their schools because they are, in fact, in the athletic team business. Conversely, if schools were not concerned with fielding teams, there would be no need to, say, give an athlete an edge in applying to an engineering program.
Exactly right.
RPI obviously dues, so?
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:43
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Yes if they can do the work.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:43
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Athletes do get into med school with lower GPAs but not mediocre MCAT, but some NESCAC grad type schools don’t require MCAT they feed medical schools.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:41
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Again, there is no edge. Athletes are not competing against non-athletes for a seat. If the school has a sports team they are going to need an athlete to field the team. Athlete candidates are competing against themselves.
That is correct: Schools recruit athletes to fill spots in their schools because they are, in fact, in the athletic team business. Conversely, if schools were not concerned with fielding teams, there would be no need to, say, give an athlete an edge in applying to an engineering program.
Exactly right.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:35
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Shoutout to the poster who mentioned N'golo Kante! Up the Chels!
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:35
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Again, there is no edge. Athletes are not competing against non-athletes for a seat. If the school has a sports team they are going to need an athlete to field the team. Athlete candidates are competing against themselves.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:33
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Geez... If you don't like colleges and universities giving preferential admissions to recruited athletes, try to change it by running for political offices so that you can pass laws to ban such practices. Otherwise, stop complaining and whining.
Wow, mic drop from the master of the self own!
Nice job, Applesauce!
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:31
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Geez... If you don't like colleges and universities giving preferential admissions to recruited athletes, try to change it by running for political offices so that you can pass laws to ban such practices. Otherwise, stop complaining and whining.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:31
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
OK, should an athlete get an edge in applying to an engineering program?
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:27
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Undergrad and grad two different things. Not a valid argument.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:24
Subject: Re:Athletes have such an edge
Do you think an athlete should get an edge in applying to medical school? Mediocre MCATs, far below the average grades of most applicants, but the kid could play football.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:20
Subject: Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My issue has nothing to do with fairness. It has to do with societal values.
Why are institutions of higher education (and state education funds) so focused on recruiting and supporting young adults who play SPORTS.
They should be decoupled.
Because sports and arts are businesses and they need to be part of colleges if you want to work in those industries.
Folks don't seem to understand that colleges aren't trade schools. They're not designed to be nothing but education factories.
It's weird that for people who think they are so smart, there are these gobsmacked posts all the time like they just figured this out.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:19
Subject: Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My issue has nothing to do with fairness. It has to do with societal values.
Why are institutions of higher education (and state education funds) so focused on recruiting and supporting young adults who play SPORTS.
They should be decoupled.
Because sports and arts are businesses and they need to be part of colleges if you want to work in those industries.
Folks don't seem to understand that colleges aren't trade schools. They're not designed to be nothing but education factories.
Exactly which is why the creativity of sports and arts are so important in higher education. We are not building robots.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 14:18
Subject: Athletes have such an edge
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My issue has nothing to do with fairness. It has to do with societal values.
Why are institutions of higher education (and state education funds) so focused on recruiting and supporting young adults who play SPORTS.
They should be decoupled.
Because sports and arts are businesses and they need to be part of colleges if you want to work in those industries.
Folks don't seem to understand that colleges aren't trade schools. They're not designed to be nothing but education factories.