Anonymous
12/09/2021 10:31
Subject: CogAT score is here
I think 3 continuous days taking a test and answering 50 questions in one shot, seems to be a problem with some gifted kids. Then they miss some questions or in the end cants focus. It’s a lot to handle for a 7 year old.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 10:30
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.
To clarify, I absolutely support the correction based on age. It's just that when you get to the upper end of the scale, scores start stretching out and something like 1 month difference in age can make a 1 pt difference for the same raw score and be the difference between a 132 in pool and a 131 not in pool.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 10:30
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.
Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.
12 month age range is typical within a grade
?
Anonymous
12/09/2021 10:26
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.
Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.
NNAT and CoGAT are both age normed. I have 2 kids who are young for grade, including one who had a classmate turn 6 on the day my kid turned 5. The age norming accounts for that.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 09:47
Subject: CogAT score is here
.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.
Sorry, a classmate that turned 6 on the same day my child turned 5.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 09:46
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
That seems fair, especially since there is such a wide age range in a class. My child started Kindergarten at age 4 (September birthday) and has a classmate that turned 5 on the same day.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 09:42
Subject: CogAT score is here
My DC attempted all questions but missed one question in math. She attempted 49 out of 50 questions. She scored 47 raw score. Math is her strength. That one question brought her score down. May be she got distracted and clicked next button by mistake without answering the question. It’s harsh for kids 7 years old to take this big test which determines their admission.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 09:13
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Even at the 130 range it is somewhat similar, at least for NNAT. Two kids that are 2-3 mo apart in age could have about a 3 point difference based on them having 1 question different, especially if it's the younger kid who got it right. There is no way to say you have no idea what the answer is, so this includes a scenario with both kids guessing and the younger one happening to guess correctly. That is why they encourage kids to be referred, particularly if the scores are close. In reality they should just lower the pool to 95th percentile.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 08:44
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
It honestly should be viewed as the same score. The difference between a 137 and a 150 in any section is probably one incorrect answer. My kid had a 149 in one section with all problems correct and a 130 in another with only 3 incorrect. It's a very harsh scale at the top.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 07:55
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The school newsletter states that they received CogAT scores on Tuesday, and they mailed the letters Wednesday via USPS.
It seems that most of schools got the score on Tuesday. But, some schools are sending it over backpack, and some schools are mailing it.
Anyway, most of us should get the score by this Saturday.
Was this one specific school noting this? I did not see it in the recent FCPS newsletter.
Yes, I think that’s school-specific. Ours has not mentioned anything yet and they usually send everything in the mail.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 07:41
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:The school newsletter states that they received CogAT scores on Tuesday, and they mailed the letters Wednesday via USPS.
It seems that most of schools got the score on Tuesday. But, some schools are sending it over backpack, and some schools are mailing it.
Anyway, most of us should get the score by this Saturday.
Was this one specific school noting this? I did not see it in the recent FCPS newsletter.
Anonymous
12/09/2021 03:49
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
Yes, at that level they probably have the same chances, which are still really good. It’s kids with more borderline in-pool scores that might not get in without a good teacher recommendation and work samples.
Anonymous
12/08/2021 23:58
Subject: CogAT score is here
Of course, they are not same.
99.0% 137.22
99.1% 137.85
99.2% 138.54
99.3% 139.32
99.4% 140.19
99.5% 141.21
99.6% 142.43
99.7% 143.96
99.8% 146.05
99.9% 149.44
99.91% 149.94
99.92% 150.49
99.93% 151.11
99.94% 151.82
99.95% 152.65
99.96% 153.64
99.97% 154.91
99.98% 156.64
99.99% 159.50
99.0% 137.22
99.1% 137.85
99.2% 138.54
99.3% 139.32
99.4% 140.19
99.5% 141.21
99.6% 142.43
99.7% 143.96
99.8% 146.05
99.9% 149.44
99.91% 149.94
99.92% 150.49
99.93% 151.11
99.94% 151.82
99.95% 152.65
99.96% 153.64
99.97% 154.91
99.98% 156.64
99.99% 159.50
Anonymous
12/08/2021 22:51
Subject: CogAT score is here
Thanks for posting this.
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
So it’s 99 percentile after 137 composite? Between 137 to 160 composite is considered as the same score? A kid with 150 and another with 140 have the same changes to getting in AAP?
Anonymous
12/08/2021 22:44
Subject: CogAT score is here
FYI...
90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22
90% 120.50
91% 121.45
92% 122.48
93% 123.61
94% 124.88
95% 126.32
96% 128.01
97% 130.09
98% 132.86
99% 137.22