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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised that DC has been hit harder than other cities.

There are many people who live in NY, LA, SF etc because they are world class cities and have a lot to offer.

Most people live in DC because of....work. Now there have been shifts in work structures that will likely result in a portion of DC office workers having a hybrid or fully remote work arrangement. I don’t see these people staying chained to DC like I might expect someone to still stay in NY or LA.

On top of that, add in the high COL, social unrest, homeless people and crime. DC is on the decline. It’s pretty easy to figure this out. Now see what happens with a government shutdown!

We actually live in DC b/c we love DC. What social unrest? The Trumpers who came and left? SF and LA don't have a worse homeless situation than DC? Really?

Seriously? You don't remember BLM, Antifa, shattered windows, burning cars, looting?

DC resident here. No I don’t remember this outside of Fox News. There were a couple of broken windows but it wasn’t as wide scale and pervasive as Fox painted it.

City dwellers will only move out for more room if they can’t afford a house in DC. Most will stay for the restaurants and social activities. You are just stuck in a house on the burbs, why would anyone want to WFH in the ‘burbs? It’s isolated and depressing. In DC, I work from home then meet up with friends to do fun stuff —eat at great restaurants, go for drinks, go to shows.

This is so ridiculous. Lying about things people can see with their eyes is just stupid. There was not one single cvs in the entire city (including spring valley ffs) that wasn’t looted. Everything with any booze was looted. I mean, give me a break. Observing this FACT with one’s own eyes does not a MAGA make. The refusal to deal in reality will really harm the city…

Just stop. We live in the U Street area and nothing was looted. Nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised that DC has been hit harder than other cities.

There are many people who live in NY, LA, SF etc because they are world class cities and have a lot to offer.

Most people live in DC because of....work. Now there have been shifts in work structures that will likely result in a portion of DC office workers having a hybrid or fully remote work arrangement. I don’t see these people staying chained to DC like I might expect someone to still stay in NY or LA.

On top of that, add in the high COL, social unrest, homeless people and crime. DC is on the decline. It’s pretty easy to figure this out. Now see what happens with a government shutdown!

We actually live in DC b/c we love DC. What social unrest? The Trumpers who came and left? SF and LA don't have a worse homeless situation than DC? Really?

Seriously? You don't remember BLM, Antifa, shattered windows, burning cars, looting?

DC resident here. No I don’t remember this outside of Fox News. There were a couple of broken windows but it wasn’t as wide scale and pervasive as Fox painted it.

City dwellers will only move out for more room if they can’t afford a house in DC. Most will stay for the restaurants and social activities. You are just stuck in a house on the burbs, why would anyone want to WFH in the ‘burbs? It’s isolated and depressing. In DC, I work from home then meet up with friends to do fun stuff —eat at great restaurants, go for drinks, go to shows.

This is so ridiculous. Lying about things people can see with their eyes is just stupid. There was not one single cvs in the entire city (including spring valley ffs) that wasn’t looted. Everything with any booze was looted. I mean, give me a break. Observing this FACT with one’s own eyes does not a MAGA make. The refusal to deal in reality will really harm the city…

Sorry man that’s not a fact. I live in DC and have three CVS’s in my neighborhood. None were vandalized, certainly not looted. I don’t think you live here or have a good sense of DC.

Not sure where you are in DC but the CVS pharmacies and Grubbs pharmacy on Capitol Hill were looted. The statues around Capitol Hill were also spray painted. The National Mall was cordoned off for several weekends due to ongoing protests. Many of the protestors were peaceful but there was also a fair amount of looting downtown. Many business owners had to board up their businesses for weeks and some just closed.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of you actually live in DC. We live in the U Street/Logan area and it's basically like there never was a pandemic. If you need to move to Frederick because of housing prices and "social unrest," well, good luck to you. You'll be replaced soon enough by the more prosperous.

Oh, a couple days ago a realtor knocked on my door and literally begged me to sell my townhouse. If DC is dying, you sure can't tell from the real estate prices.

So many suburbanites seem to get off on DC's impending demise. It's ain't gonna happen.

I believe you that your neighborhood is doing great. People who used to go into offices and spend money downtown are now spending their money closer to home. When is the last time you went downtown?

I never go downtown because I don't work. But I know, for example, that most of the major law firms are soon to require their workers to return to the office full or nearly full time. The delta variant has slowed things down, to be sure, but DC is going to come back.

I don't get why so many on DCUM seem to delight on DC having problems. It's an odd psychology.

No one is delighting. That’s your odd assumption.

Look - the WSJ had a front page article about this. There has to be *some* truth to it.

Sure, some law firms are requiring lawyers to return FT. But major law firms aren’t a large % of employers in the district. Look at what government agencies and contractors require. That’s what matters.

It's an opinion piece supported by a few anecdotes of people who left town, some of whom would have left anyway. DC has always been a transient city.

And I used law firms as an example. They're hardly the only employers who are requiring workers to come back -- and, yes they are a large percentage of employers. DC's downtown is full of law firms, for pete's sake.

That's an embarrassing thing to say. It's a well reported piece of journalism. You are starting to sound like a "fake news" Trump in your attempts to rebut a very interesting story.

It's not a hard news story. That's all I'm saying. If it were, then no one could disagree with it.

Have you read the article? It contains a lot of stats on employers, new work arrangements, DC population growth etc. Yes, it contains some personal anecdotes.

I realize the story is likely upsetting to you. It’s why you’re so defensive.

The story doesn't upset me in the least. I'm fine personally, professionally, socially, and economically no matter what happens to and in DC. I'm just curious as to why so many DCUM posters get off on putting the city down and wishing its demise. You're all so damned nasty and petty. It's astounding.

DP. Let's be clear here. You are calling a well reported article that it seems that you may not have even read a piece of opinion because you personally disagree with it and personally believe that it is not "hard news". When people rightly point out that this is weird and defensive behavior, your response is to engage in ad hominem?

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

There is so much desperate self-justification going on in this reply.

Why?

NP but judging by the fact that the person thinks that taking personal shots is somehow scoring points, something is clearly going on with them.

Plus ignoring that the original post was a reply to the post above it, and never says anything about being special or different or new. On the flipside, staying in the city is also not special, different, new, or not-Karen. The reply makes no sense except as taking personal shots, and it just seems small.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

There is so much desperate self-justification going on in this reply.

Why?

NP but judging by the fact that the person thinks that taking personal shots is somehow scoring points, something is clearly going on with them.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

There is so much desperate self-justification going on in this reply.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

There is so much desperate self-justification going on in this reply.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from DC to the burbs for better schools and less crime. It was a decision based on the best environment for our children, not based on restaurants and shows. Nothing in the past two years since we moved indicates we've made the wrong decision.

This doesn't make you special or different. It's nothing new. You have kids, you become Karen. The city doesn't miss you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised that DC has been hit harder than other cities.

There are many people who live in NY, LA, SF etc because they are world class cities and have a lot to offer.

Most people live in DC because of....work. Now there have been shifts in work structures that will likely result in a portion of DC office workers having a hybrid or fully remote work arrangement. I don’t see these people staying chained to DC like I might expect someone to still stay in NY or LA.

On top of that, add in the high COL, social unrest, homeless people and crime. DC is on the decline. It’s pretty easy to figure this out. Now see what happens with a government shutdown!

We actually live in DC b/c we love DC. What social unrest? The Trumpers who came and left? SF and LA don't have a worse homeless situation than DC? Really?

Seriously? You don't remember BLM, Antifa, shattered windows, burning cars, looting?

DC resident here. No I don’t remember this outside of Fox News. There were a couple of broken windows but it wasn’t as wide scale and pervasive as Fox painted it.

City dwellers will only move out for more room if they can’t afford a house in DC. Most will stay for the restaurants and social activities. You are just stuck in a house on the burbs, why would anyone want to WFH in the ‘burbs? It’s isolated and depressing. In DC, I work from home then meet up with friends to do fun stuff —eat at great restaurants, go for drinks, go to shows.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised that DC has been hit harder than other cities.

There are many people who live in NY, LA, SF etc because they are world class cities and have a lot to offer.

Most people live in DC because of....work. Now there have been shifts in work structures that will likely result in a portion of DC office workers having a hybrid or fully remote work arrangement. I don’t see these people staying chained to DC like I might expect someone to still stay in NY or LA.

On top of that, add in the high COL, social unrest, homeless people and crime. DC is on the decline. It’s pretty easy to figure this out. Now see what happens with a government shutdown!

We actually live in DC b/c we love DC. What social unrest? The Trumpers who came and left? SF and LA don't have a worse homeless situation than DC? Really?

Seriously? You don't remember BLM, Antifa, shattered windows, burning cars, looting?

DC resident here. No I don’t remember this outside of Fox News. There were a couple of broken windows but it wasn’t as wide scale and pervasive as Fox painted it.

City dwellers will only move out for more room if they can’t afford a house in DC. Most will stay for the restaurants and social activities. You are just stuck in a house on the burbs, why would anyone want to WFH in the ‘burbs? It’s isolated and depressing. In DC, I work from home then meet up with friends to do fun stuff —eat at great restaurants, go for drinks, go to shows.

This is so ridiculous. Lying about things people can see with their eyes is just stupid. There was not one single cvs in the entire city (including spring valley ffs) that wasn’t looted. Everything with any booze was looted. I mean, give me a break. Observing this FACT with one’s own eyes does not a MAGA make. The refusal to deal in reality will really harm the city…

Sorry man that’s not a fact. I live in DC and have three CVS’s in my neighborhood. None were vandalized, certainly not looted. I don’t think you live here or have a good sense of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:I have friends in NYC who said it was very depressing to live there during the pandemic.

I feel like living in DC has proven to me how great this city is.

DC has the nation's best park scores:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-has-the-nations-best-park-system-study-says-arlington-isnt-far-behind/2019/05/21/ecbd528c-7b1f-11e9-a3dd-d481bcdabfe6_story.html

Which my family took full advantage of during COVID.

That alone is huge.

Our architecture (adjoining row houses with neighboring porches) makes it much easier to talk to your neighbors. We got to know many more people who live near us during the pandemic.

As a city, DC has done well in this pandemic.

Predictably, some areas downtown with few residents and high concentration of office workers are still a bit empty. Not surprising given how dominant an employer the Federal Government is and how few members of that workforce have been called back.

But that real estate will never be worthless. It's a ten minute cab ride from Capitol Hill. A place that will never change its address. I'm fairly confident that's worth something.

All this proves is that you weren’t in DC during the 80’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised that DC has been hit harder than other cities.

There are many people who live in NY, LA, SF etc because they are world class cities and have a lot to offer.

Most people live in DC because of....work. Now there have been shifts in work structures that will likely result in a portion of DC office workers having a hybrid or fully remote work arrangement. I don’t see these people staying chained to DC like I might expect someone to still stay in NY or LA.

On top of that, add in the high COL, social unrest, homeless people and crime. DC is on the decline. It’s pretty easy to figure this out. Now see what happens with a government shutdown!

We actually live in DC b/c we love DC. What social unrest? The Trumpers who came and left? SF and LA don't have a worse homeless situation than DC? Really?

Seriously? You don't remember BLM, Antifa, shattered windows, burning cars, looting?

DC resident here. No I don’t remember this outside of Fox News. There were a couple of broken windows but it wasn’t as wide scale and pervasive as Fox painted it.

City dwellers will only move out for more room if they can’t afford a house in DC. Most will stay for the restaurants and social activities. You are just stuck in a house on the burbs, why would anyone want to WFH in the ‘burbs? It’s isolated and depressing. In DC, I work from home then meet up with friends to do fun stuff —eat at great restaurants, go for drinks, go to shows.

This is so ridiculous. Lying about things people can see with their eyes is just stupid. There was not one single cvs in the entire city (including spring valley ffs) that wasn’t looted. Everything with any booze was looted. I mean, give me a break. Observing this FACT with one’s own eyes does not a MAGA make. The refusal to deal in reality will really harm the city…