Anonymous
12/24/2024 23:22
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Rec kids shouldn't be practicing on turf anyway. It should be reserved for higher level play. Grass field is fine for rec.
Arlington County disagrees too. As a rec coach I disagree too.
Anonymous
12/24/2024 22:34
Subject: Valor
I see no issue with a coach trying to earn an extra dollar by private coaching kids from other teams. For example- a boy getting lessons from a girl team coach. I do have issues with a coach giving paid private lessons to a kid that they coach or currently coaching same age group. That just seems like a recipe for disaster (favoritism -> parents feeling pressured to pay to play). Just wanted to make sure that we are all pointing our fingers at the latter.
Anonymous
12/24/2024 08:25
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Rec kids shouldn't be practicing on turf anyway. It should be reserved for higher level play. Grass field is fine for rec.
The County disagrees. It is really hard for orgs without rec leagues to get access to any county turf fields for practices. That's why the st james had so many problems with fields. Clearly Valor has found a loophole where financially they are separate from the rec leagues but they use the rec leagues field space. If Valor tried to get their own field space from the county, they would not get much or any b/c they do have their own rec league.
Not sure why the people who run CYA and SYA are OK with this as they are supposed to be running a program for rec sports and rec players. ($$$ changing hands???)
Anonymous
12/23/2024 11:37
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is frustrating to read. My dd's older CYA rec team only practiced on terrible grass fields.
CYA was given turf field permits by the County and then allowed Valor to use them for free instead of saving them for CYA kids, and Valor didn't even need them for practice space? We could have had 4-5 rec teams practicing on that wasted field space.
I don't know how long ago this was. But I coached my DD's CYA team last spring. For 2 practices a week you could reserve a turf field for one of those practices. If a coach chose a grass field for both practices it was because the day and time availability of the turf did not work for them.
How much space did you get on turf? Last year when my ds played SYA rec only gave the older SFL age rec coaches one hour on turf once a week and they shared the practice field with three other older teams. It was very crowded. IT is annoying to hear that SYA had extra space kids could have been practicing on but they let random people run their personal business off it instead.
Anonymous
12/23/2024 11:33
Subject: Valor
Rec kids shouldn't be practicing on turf anyway. It should be reserved for higher level play. Grass field is fine for rec.
Anonymous
12/23/2024 11:26
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:This is frustrating to read. My dd's older CYA rec team only practiced on terrible grass fields.
CYA was given turf field permits by the County and then allowed Valor to use them for free instead of saving them for CYA kids, and Valor didn't even need them for practice space? We could have had 4-5 rec teams practicing on that wasted field space.
I don't know how long ago this was. But I coached my DD's CYA team last spring. For 2 practices a week you could reserve a turf field for one of those practices. If a coach chose a grass field for both practices it was because the day and time availability of the turf did not work for them.
Anonymous
12/23/2024 11:17
Subject: Valor
This is frustrating to read. My dd's older CYA rec team only practiced on terrible grass fields.
CYA was given turf field permits by the County and then allowed Valor to use them for free instead of saving them for CYA kids, and Valor didn't even need them for practice space? We could have had 4-5 rec teams practicing on that wasted field space.
CYA was given turf field permits by the County and then allowed Valor to use them for free instead of saving them for CYA kids, and Valor didn't even need them for practice space? We could have had 4-5 rec teams practicing on that wasted field space.
Anonymous
12/23/2024 11:13
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight but my older ds played on a Valor team practicing on Fridays at that park. He said before their 6:30 practice, there were Valor coaches doing lessons on the field, like 1 coach and 1 player on half a field. When they tried to warm up on the "open" field, the coaches kicked them off.
SA?
He didn't know any of the coaches. They were there every week and not always the same coaches so the free field space must be a known perk offered to Valor coaches. Usually male, sometimes female, coaches.
Anonymous
12/23/2024 10:43
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight but my older ds played on a Valor team practicing on Fridays at that park. He said before their 6:30 practice, there were Valor coaches doing lessons on the field, like 1 coach and 1 player on half a field. When they tried to warm up on the "open" field, the coaches kicked them off.
SA?
Anonymous
12/23/2024 10:05
Subject: Valor
No dog in this fight but my older ds played on a Valor team practicing on Fridays at that park. He said before their 6:30 practice, there were Valor coaches doing lessons on the field, like 1 coach and 1 player on half a field. When they tried to warm up on the "open" field, the coaches kicked them off.
Anonymous
12/22/2024 20:31
Subject: Valor
if anyone ever tries to kick you off a field your kid is playing on for a private lesson, ask to see a copy of the permit. It should be in thaf individual's name. If its not, you have every right to stay.
Anonymous
12/22/2024 20:24
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have proof that a coach was charging extra to train players on that field at that time? Or just assuming it was a private lesson? There is at least one coach who has “scheduled” pickup soccer on Fridays on more than one occasion. It’s not a formal training it’s just whoever in the age group wants to show up can come play and the coach sort of loosely refs/gives tips. Turnout varies widely considering people have different things going on. I don’t know the rules on this. It just seems like there’s an assumption that a coach was running a paid private lesson but that may not be the case. They shouldn’t be kicking other people off the field I agree with that part.
Oh please. A private lesson is obviously just that. One coach, one kid, a bunch of cones and balls etc.
Anonymous
12/22/2024 20:23
Subject: Valor
If the field isn't permitted or being used, then a coach giving a private lesson has just as much right to space as any other pickup player. Share the field, etc.
Valor coaches kicking off pickup players for an alleged "practice" that's really a private for profit lesson does not comply with the field permit rules.
Valor coaches kicking off pickup players for an alleged "practice" that's really a private for profit lesson does not comply with the field permit rules.
Anonymous
12/22/2024 14:28
Subject: Valor
Why are you all acting like this is specific to Valor. I know a Herndon coach charging for privates that would use valor fields because it was more convenient. If coaches can get away with using a field at a time that it's not formally reserved they are going to.
Anonymous
12/22/2024 14:11
Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have proof that a coach was charging extra to train players on that field at that time? Or just assuming it was a private lesson? There is at least one coach who has “scheduled” pickup soccer on Fridays on more than one occasion. It’s not a formal training it’s just whoever in the age group wants to show up can come play and the coach sort of loosely refs/gives tips. Turnout varies widely considering people have different things going on. I don’t know the rules on this. It just seems like there’s an assumption that a coach was running a paid private lesson but that may not be the case. They shouldn’t be kicking other people off the field I agree with that part.
Parents admitting it when they think others aren't listen to their convos is enough evidence for me.
This. And also, are you saying these coaches are volunteering their time to give these kids extra help at no cost? The guys getting paid 30k a year if they have 2 teams are just out here saying "Family? Friends? Money? No Thanks! Quality time with my favorite 10 year old kid!" Be reasonable folks, just because it's unenforced doesn't mean it's legal or that it's even being done ethically. Just say you don't care about the fact that it happens, at least that's intellectually honest.