Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:24     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)


Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

It didn't happen.

As for this person, Laura Carey, and the fact that Yovanovitch appears to have lied under oath....... It is relevant to find out how far in advance this impeachment proceeding was orchestrated. And, who all is involved in the planning.


This did happen. Withholding military aid is a threat, and they wanted to obtain falsified dirt on Biden.

I don’t believe anything coming from Fox News. Some of their “journalists” may be implicated in this entire conspiracy.


LOL.
Dream on.
Fox has actually been far more accurate in their reporting in the past 3 years than other formerly reputable media outlets.
We will see what Ms Yovanovitch's response is. When confronted with the emails she composed.


No. Fox is just Trump’s state-run media. Completely unreliable.

Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:21     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)


Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

It didn't happen.

As for this person, Laura Carey, and the fact that Yovanovitch appears to have lied under oath....... It is relevant to find out how far in advance this impeachment proceeding was orchestrated. And, who all is involved in the planning.


This did happen. Withholding military aid is a threat, and they wanted to obtain falsified dirt on Biden.

I don’t believe anything coming from Fox News. Some of their “journalists” may be implicated in this entire conspiracy.


LOL.
Dream on.
Fox has actually been far more accurate in their reporting in the past 3 years than other formerly reputable media outlets.
We will see what Ms Yovanovitch's response is. When confronted with the emails she composed.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:18     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)


Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

It didn't happen.

As for this person, Laura Carey, and the fact that Yovanovitch appears to have lied under oath....... It is relevant to find out how far in advance this impeachment proceeding was orchestrated. And, who all is involved in the planning.


Is this the new GOP/ FOX tactic? So predictable.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:16     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)


Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

It didn't happen.

As for this person, Laura Carey, and the fact that Yovanovitch appears to have lied under oath....... It is relevant to find out how far in advance this impeachment proceeding was orchestrated. And, who all is involved in the planning.


This did happen. Withholding military aid is a threat, and they wanted to obtain falsified dirt on Biden.

I don’t believe anything coming from Fox News. Some of their “journalists” may be implicated in this entire conspiracy.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:13     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh look, Kent says the same thing everyone else does:

“[Amb.] Gordon [Sondland], had talked to the President, POTUS in sort of shorthand, and POTUS wanted nothing less than President Zelensky to go to microphone and say investigations, Biden, and Clinton.

Isn’t that amazing?

Yup here’s the exchange:


I was being sarcastic. Shorthand? Now there’s an interesting word....
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:11     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)


Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

It didn't happen.

As for this person, Laura Carey, and the fact that Yovanovitch appears to have lied under oath....... It is relevant to find out how far in advance this impeachment proceeding was orchestrated. And, who all is involved in the planning.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 07:06     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue


How does this change the story that the President extorted the Ukrainians?

(hint, it doesn't)
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2019 05:45     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

This staffer, Laura Carey, should be called as a witness.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, a key witness in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, communicated via her personal email account with a Democratic congressional staffer concerning a "quite delicate" and "time-sensitive" matter -- just two days after the whistleblower complaint that kickstarted the inquiry was filed, and a month before the complaint became public, emails obtained Thursday by Fox News showed.

The emails appear to contradict Yovanovitch's deposition on Capitol Hill last month, in which she told U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., about an email she received Aug. 14 from the staffer, Laura Carey -- but indicated under oath that she never responded to it.


The communication came "from the Foreign Affairs Committee," and "they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure," Yovanovitch testified, describing Carey's initial email. "I alerted the State Department, because I'm still an employee, and so, matters are generally handled through the State Department."

Yovanovitch continued: "So, she emailed me. I alerted the State Department and, you know, asked them to handle the correspondence. And, she emailed me again and said, you know, 'Who should I be in touch with?'"

Fox News is told it is a breach of normal procedure for congressional staff to reach out to a current State Department employee at their personal email address for official business.


Asked directly whether she responded to Carey's overtures, Yovanovitch testified only that someone in the "Legislative Affairs Office" at the State Department had responded to Carey, to the best of her knowledge.

Yovanovitch did not indicate that she had responded to Carey's first email in any way, and testified explicitly that she did not reply to Carey's follow-up email concerning whom she should contact at the State Department.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-emails-house-democrat-staffer-delicate-issue
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 23:17     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Mulvaney is subpoenaed for a Friday morning deposition.

Seems unlikely he will comply.




ya think?

Amazing where we are now that a White House can wontonly ignore subpoenas. Imagine this 3 years ago. And yet, people yawn.


Yes. He should be arrested.

But the good news is he already 'testified' at that press conference. And now there's another tick for an obstruction article.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:59     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Kent testified that Putin and Orban forged Trump’s negative views of Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078551?__twitter_impression=true


It sort of undercuts the idea that Rudy was the big mastermined of this, as the House GOP are now trying to float.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:58     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Kent testified that Putin and Orban forged Trump’s negative views of Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1078551?__twitter_impression=true
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:32     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Is 'shorthand' the same thing as 'dogwhistle' and 'codeword'?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:29     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Mulvaney is subpoenaed for a Friday morning deposition.

Seems unlikely he will comply.




ya think?

Amazing where we are now that a White House can wontonly ignore subpoenas. Imagine this 3 years ago. And yet, people yawn.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:11     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry


Mulvaney is subpoenaed for a Friday morning deposition.

Seems unlikely he will comply.

Anonymous
Post 11/07/2019 22:09     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Bolton's Bluff - Here's my theory - Bolton, his aide and his lawyer thought they could defy the subpoena issued by the House and then they could delay through the courts. I think it's whip smart that the House then pulled the subpoena and called their bluff, and also can cite another count of obstruction.

Bolton is now signaling that he wants to testify. I think he's shaking in his boots.

This is another domino falling in Dems favor.


Bolton is not the type to be scared of anything, but I agree that he may find it worth his while to testify. Or not. Just because no one has any respect or liking for Trump, doesn't mean they're ready to embrace the impeachment process with its as yet un-quantifiable impact on personal prestige... let alone basic safety.