Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:38
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:What about Crush 2028? How are they possibly convincing top players and their parents to stay there? They literally have zero history of recruiting (have never even had a high school team) and don't even play in the top tournaments let alone get put in the top brackets.
This. To me, crush is more of a gamble than coppermine to stick with through high school.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:37
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.
Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.
This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.
I don't know a ton about Pride 23- was that team in the top bracket at those tournaments? I would imagine no if it was the club's first real try at keeping a team together for high school. There are a ton of teams at the top tournaments now so just being there would not help if you are not in the top 1-2 brackets and coaches won't go looking very far.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:35
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
What about Crush 2028? How are they possibly convincing top players and their parents to stay there? They literally have zero history of recruiting (have never even had a high school team) and don't even play in the top tournaments let alone get put in the top brackets.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:29
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.
Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.
This is exactly what the Pride 23 team thought. They were in all the big tournaments too and assumed their performance would win the day when it came time for recruiting. It didn’t happen that way.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:24
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.
Coppermine 2028 is currently in the top bracket in all the big tournaments and there is no reason to think this will change for high school so all the coaches will be there. Question remains if tournaments continue to put SW teams in the top bracket if they are ranked in the #18-30 spots and do not deserve to be there. That is when the real shift will happen.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:16
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
If my kid was on Coppermine and had the opportunity to join SW Hero’s or M&D I’d do it in a heartbeat. You never want to be part of a test case.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:13
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:All of the Coppermine teams 2028 and younger are better than SW. Most are much better. The 2028 isn't a one-off. Lax is an absurdely small world. College coaches all know Coppermine is better post-2027, and the recruiting will match. Coppermine has also built a stable of great coaches that match or are better than SW. The SW owners are obviously well respected and still have college coaches' ears, but everyone knows Coppermine has the better players at this point.
You don’t know this and the Coppermine players are left to trust only your word with zero recruiting performance to back it up. Ask the Pride 2023s how this worked out for them.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:10
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts are on Coppermine's recruiting strength? The club's Sports Recruits page shows several commits to low ranked programs but very few (any?) to top D1 programs.
They are definitely banking everything on their 2028's to change that. Coppermine is attempting to take over the players that typically go to Skywalkers but it is hard to overcome SW recruiting history. The 2027 SW team once again had a bunch of new girls added right before high school and is a better team than Coppermine 2027. Coppermine's pre-high school teams are pretty much all better than SW but they really need this 2028 team to do well with recruiting in hopes that their younger team players won't jump ship.
I do think the top 6-7 girls on Coppermine will obviously be fine recruiting wise and get a ton of exposure, but if my kid was one of the ones that plays 5 minutes a game it might be time to look elsewhere for more playing time and better history of recruiting- this is how SW gets girls for high school.
Insightful commentary. Would offer that the top 6-7 is probably more like 10-12, but the overall point is still valid. Will be impressive if Coppermine can use one superteam to pull off a sudden rise to recruiting relevance. While I respect the Baltimore old guard clubs, I'm rooting for them.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:02
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t the better players be best served playing for a MD club or Capital which have much stronger recruiting histories too?
Vast majority of these girls live in HoCo/Baltimore area so I don’t think many would consider Capital for that reason. As for the “better players” I think they will not have any problem with recruiting as this team is very well known. If key girls leave in the offseason, it could be a house of cards.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 12:00
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
All of the Coppermine teams 2028 and younger are better than SW. Most are much better. The 2028 isn't a one-off. Lax is an absurdely small world. College coaches all know Coppermine is better post-2027, and the recruiting will match. Coppermine has also built a stable of great coaches that match or are better than SW. The SW owners are obviously well respected and still have college coaches' ears, but everyone knows Coppermine has the better players at this point.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 11:58
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Wouldn’t the better players be best served playing for a MD club or Capital which have much stronger recruiting histories too?
Anonymous
04/25/2024 11:48
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
If a club isn’t known for being competitive, regardless of how good a specific team may be, they won’t attract the same level of coaches to their games compared to other clubs with more established recruiting histories.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 11:02
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts are on Coppermine's recruiting strength? The club's Sports Recruits page shows several commits to low ranked programs but very few (any?) to top D1 programs.
They are definitely banking everything on their 2028's to change that. Coppermine is attempting to take over the players that typically go to Skywalkers but it is hard to overcome SW recruiting history. The 2027 SW team once again had a bunch of new girls added right before high school and is a better team than Coppermine 2027. Coppermine's pre-high school teams are pretty much all better than SW but they really need this 2028 team to do well with recruiting in hopes that their younger team players won't jump ship.
I do think the top 6-7 girls on Coppermine will obviously be fine recruiting wise and get a ton of exposure, but if my kid was one of the ones that plays 5 minutes a game it might be time to look elsewhere for more playing time and better history of recruiting- this is how SW gets girls for high school.
I agree with this especially about the girls who do not see the field and might start on any other number of too teams. That is the problem with the Coppermine model which has been spoken about so much here and on the MD blog. Would not be surprised if M&D, Hero’s or SW get a kid or two.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 10:47
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts are on Coppermine's recruiting strength? The club's Sports Recruits page shows several commits to low ranked programs but very few (any?) to top D1 programs.
They are definitely banking everything on their 2028's to change that. Coppermine is attempting to take over the players that typically go to Skywalkers but it is hard to overcome SW recruiting history. The 2027 SW team once again had a bunch of new girls added right before high school and is a better team than Coppermine 2027. Coppermine's pre-high school teams are pretty much all better than SW but they really need this 2028 team to do well with recruiting in hopes that their younger team players won't jump ship.
I do think the top 6-7 girls on Coppermine will obviously be fine recruiting wise and get a ton of exposure, but if my kid was one of the ones that plays 5 minutes a game it might be time to look elsewhere for more playing time and better history of recruiting- this is how SW gets girls for high school.
Anonymous
04/25/2024 10:17
Subject: 2028 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts are on Coppermine's recruiting strength? The club's Sports Recruits page shows several commits to low ranked programs but very few (any?) to top D1 programs.
It has not been as strong as the other top MD teams or Capital. They are trying to change that but 2028 appears to be their standout year.