Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a male who said that they had the plane in sight. I’m the PP whose ex was a BH pilot. Based on the stories ex shared with me, it’s possible that the other two pilots were just shooting the breeze instead of supervising.
And their families bravely shared their names.
Anonymous wrote:It was a male who said that they had the plane in sight. I’m the PP whose ex was a BH pilot. Based on the stories ex shared with me, it’s possible that the other two pilots were just shooting the breeze instead of supervising.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
Don’t forget skin color.
The pilots name would have already been leaked if she were a POC.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
+1. And last 5-10 years of reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
I can tell you her credentials - she is a qualified Army Blackhawk pilot.
Are you also screaming skepticism over the qualification of the instructor pilot, who was probably guiding the training exercise (that's what instructors do) and was actually the one to claim visual contact & ask for separation authority? Oh, of course not. He's male, so of course he's qualified for his job.
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
Don’t forget skin color.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
A male voice said the aircraft was in sight and he was looking at the wrong aircraft.
Sounds like she was the pilot flying, he was the instructor and the one who called out that the traffic was in sight and requested visual sep.
Instructors bear just as much responsibility, if not more, as the pilot flying.
Makes me wonder where PP would assign the blame if the male and female pilots were reversed - I'm sure in that case they'd find some fault with the instructor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd also love to know the name of any VIP who was flown over initially, requiring the return helicopter flight.
If this is ever released, I’ll be shocked.
My prediction: We will never find out who the vip was.
Probably one of Trump’s children.
Or some equally frivolous trip. Part of the investigation should be listing every approved trip, and was there an increase with the new admin. If it was happening in past admins, shame them, too, but make it stop. Every helicopter puts lives at risk. Time to sit in traffic with everyone else heading to the office.
The trip details are less important. They should have had control of that helicopter. This is a grave helicopter operation error. This was a flight in clear weather, no hostile fire, clear instruction and communication from ATC and they still crashed straight into a passenger jet flying a known and communicated route.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wonder what happened to those passengers who were next to land behind the CRJ, I guess they quickly had to reroute, or did they just land as planned? Must have been terrifying for them also.
All the planes behind were diverted. If you track AA3130, they went to BWI. Others went to Dulles, and others turned back to their origination airport.
The people on board AA3130 would have witnessed this tragedy. I can only imagine what went through their minds.
I don’t think they could see it. Passengers reported not knowing why they were being rerouted until texting with relatives or reaching their destination.
If I saw it, I’d keep it to myself so as not to start a panic on board. I would not want to be with 60-250 panicking people in such a small space.
A passenger on that flight stated they didn’t see it but the pilot suddenly ascended which caught everyone by surprised and they were diverted to BWI.
I’ve had this happen a couple times over the years landing at DCA - the plane suddenly accelerates during landing and pulls up again to make another approach. It’s unnerving to say the least, it hasn’t happened to me at any other airport and I’ve spoken to others over the years who have experienced it as well.
I do think DCA is a pretty dangerous airport, compared to most others. Not that it’s “dangerous” per se, but relative to other airports.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
A male voice said the aircraft was in sight and he was looking at the wrong aircraft.
Sounds like she was the pilot flying, he was the instructor and the one who called out that the traffic was in sight and requested visual sep. Instructors bear just as much responsibility, if not more, as the pilot flying. Makes me wonder where PP would assign the blame if the male and female pilots were reversed - I'm sure in that case they'd find some fault with the instructor.
.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are numerous BH pilots saying it was the primary job of the white guy sitting in the back to make sure the area around the BH was clear. I also read that it often is 2 in back although 3 can be done. But doesn’t make sense in this airspace.
Yeah and?
What does the back crew guy do with the PIC, with one hand on cyclical, other hand on collective, and her feet on the rotors, juts up 150 ft off course and veers into middle of river suddenly right when a commercial jet descends there?
Btw this easily could have happened at runway 1 thirty seconds more down river.
This is exactly what will happen with MAGA. They’ll ignore the experts and pull $hit out of their ass to make up some narrative that of course she was a DEI hire, despite absolutely no evidence of it. The men who are alive and knew her won’t speak up on her behalf because there’s a hatred for women in the military as of 1/20/25.
Just the ones that kill 70 people in mid air.
So you’ve already tried her with all the military evidence you have, and found that not only is she guilty, but a “killer?!” Are you already trashing the two white men who did nothing to stop a helicopter that was too high, and off course in line with DCA’s runway?
As soon as you read that last sentence, is your mind now scrambling to make up more damning reasons to blame this accident solely on the actions of a single person, outside of any higher ups who gave orders, or any other culpable parties because she has to be a DEI hire for the very reason she dared to be a woman in the military?
She was in charge it’s mostly her fault.
Then what do you need her name for? To curse it?
They can keep her name, I want to see her credentials and background.