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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone completely off the rails.

Green = McLean
Blue = Brave

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone completely off the rails.

Green = McLean
Blue = Brave

Not accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:ID Session on a weeknight for HS age group, good job McBrave. When kids are already stressed out to the max and feel that missing a session would be the end of it all, they now have to sacrifice HS soccer for it (the only place that seems to treat them with a modicum of respect these days). (By the way, all other respectful clubs (VDA, NVA) have their HS sessions on weekends). I don't need to say no more...

100% The older group had it so late in the evening as well. Doubling up school HS Training and club try out same nights! AND the possibility of being cut! SHIT SHOW!!!

Give it a break. Clubs don’t give a crap about HS sports and, IMO, shouldn’t. Club sports is what gets you into college for soccer.

Comments like this just show you how ignorant parents are to what players want. HS soccer is the one chance that most of these players will ever get to play in front of their friends and take pride in playing for their school. Most of these "elite" players will never play college soccer or pro which has a similar experience. HS soccer is an experience most players love regardless of the level of play. Playing club soccer with screaming annoying parents on the sideline will never be more enjoyable as playing HS. NEVER. This whole drama over ECNL is the result of disconnected parents and club leadership who don't realize they are ruining the essence of the game for the players. MYS leadership should have asked the players what they wanted. I guarantee you that nearly all of them would tell you they would rather keep their coaches regardless of the league they play in. This is why MYS parents are upset. Unfortunately and typical in american culture it's the 1% driving the decisions. How many different leagues do we have to play in before we realize it's not the league that matters. F*ck ECNL. Players have and will continue to get recruited regardless of the "platform" they play in. NCSL, CCL, EDP, USYS NL, NAL, EAL, ECNL, MLSNext, and whatever else they come up with in the future will not (and should not) change the clubs responbiility to it's member to provide the best experiences for their players. How is this merger improving on the experience of the majority it's players. It's not. It's catering the minority and enriching it's staff/leadership - got to pay for LW to have an associate ED to do all her work. Parent's now have to deal with another fee increase to $3200 and pay for new uniforms AGAIN! They just raised fees last year and we are in year one of uniforms. Team fees will be A LOT higher than $500. Bank on that. Who's paying for 2-3 coaches per team plus GK staff to travel to away games and showcases. Parents are. Rosters will be huge to make sure both clubs get players in the team. Good luck with playing time. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. The club lacks core values and this merger is evidence of that.

Same ignorance from the Clubs! HS Soccer IS an experience that most HS Soccer players look forward to. For a club to disregard this and just think of "what gets you into college" is why we have lots of kids quit prematurely!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ID Session on a weeknight for HS age group, good job McBrave. When kids are already stressed out to the max and feel that missing a session would be the end of it all, they now have to sacrifice HS soccer for it (the only place that seems to treat them with a modicum of respect these days). (By the way, all other respectful clubs (VDA, NVA) have their HS sessions on weekends). I don't need to say no more...

100% The older group had it so late in the evening as well. Doubling up school HS Training and club try out same nights! AND the possibility of being cut! SHIT SHOW!!!

Give it a break. Clubs don’t give a crap about HS sports and, IMO, shouldn’t. Club sports is what gets you into college for soccer.

Comments like this just show you how ignorant parents are to what players want. HS soccer is the one chance that most of these players will ever get to play in front of their friends and take pride in playing for their school. Most of these "elite" players will never play college soccer or pro which has a similar experience. HS soccer is an experience most players love regardless of the level of play. Playing club soccer with screaming annoying parents on the sideline will never be more enjoyable as playing HS. NEVER. This whole drama over ECNL is the result of disconnected parents and club leadership who don't realize they are ruining the essence of the game for the players. MYS leadership should have asked the players what they wanted. I guarantee you that nearly all of them would tell you they would rather keep their coaches regardless of the league they play in. This is why MYS parents are upset. Unfortunately and typical in american culture it's the 1% driving the decisions. How many different leagues do we have to play in before we realize it's not the league that matters. F*ck ECNL. Players have and will continue to get recruited regardless of the "platform" they play in. NCSL, CCL, EDP, USYS NL, NAL, EAL, ECNL, MLSNext, and whatever else they come up with in the future will not (and should not) change the clubs responbiility to it's member to provide the best experiences for their players. How is this merger improving on the experience of the majority it's players. It's not. It's catering the minority and enriching it's staff/leadership - got to pay for LW to have an associate ED to do all her work. Parent's now have to deal with another fee increase to $3200 and pay for new uniforms AGAIN! They just raised fees last year and we are in year one of uniforms. Team fees will be A LOT higher than $500. Bank on that. Who's paying for 2-3 coaches per team plus GK staff to travel to away games and showcases. Parents are. Rosters will be huge to make sure both clubs get players in the team. Good luck with playing time. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. The club lacks core values and this merger is evidence of that.

Anonymous wrote:Folks here forgot they are the consumer and therefore in a free market, you can go anywhere. If you don't like the product, go somewhere where you feel you are getting a better ROI.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone completely off the rails.

Green = McLean
Blue = Brave

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ID Session on a weeknight for HS age group, good job McBrave. When kids are already stressed out to the max and feel that missing a session would be the end of it all, they now have to sacrifice HS soccer for it (the only place that seems to treat them with a modicum of respect these days). (By the way, all other respectful clubs (VDA, NVA) have their HS sessions on weekends). I don't need to say no more...

100% The older group had it so late in the evening as well. Doubling up school HS Training and club try out same nights! AND the possibility of being cut! SHIT SHOW!!!

Give it a break. Clubs don’t give a crap about HS sports and, IMO, shouldn’t. Club sports is what gets you into college for soccer.

Comments like this just show you how ignorant parents are to what players want. HS soccer is the one chance that most of these players will ever get to play in front of their friends and take pride in playing for their school. Most of these "elite" players will never play college soccer or pro which has a similar experience. HS soccer is an experience most players love regardless of the level of play. Playing club soccer with screaming annoying parents on the sideline will never be more enjoyable as playing HS. NEVER. This whole drama over ECNL is the result of disconnected parents and club leadership who don't realize they are ruining the essence of the game for the players. MYS leadership should have asked the players what they wanted. I guarantee you that nearly all of them would tell you they would rather keep their coaches regardless of the league they play in. This is why MYS parents are upset. Unfortunately and typical in american culture it's the 1% driving the decisions. How many different leagues do we have to play in before we realize it's not the league that matters. F*ck ECNL. Players have and will continue to get recruited regardless of the "platform" they play in. NCSL, CCL, EDP, USYS NL, NAL, EAL, ECNL, MLSNext, and whatever else they come up with in the future will not (and should not) change the clubs responbiility to it's member to provide the best experiences for their players. How is this merger improving on the experience of the majority it's players. It's not. It's catering the minority and enriching it's staff/leadership - got to pay for LW to have an associate ED to do all her work. Parent's now have to deal with another fee increase to $3200 and pay for new uniforms AGAIN! They just raised fees last year and we are in year one of uniforms. Team fees will be A LOT higher than $500. Bank on that. Who's paying for 2-3 coaches per team plus GK staff to travel to away games and showcases. Parents are. Rosters will be huge to make sure both clubs get players in the team. Good luck with playing time. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. The club lacks core values and this merger is evidence of that.

Anonymous wrote:This thread has gone completely off the rails.

Anonymous wrote:He tried to skate around McLeans lack of development in the younger ages by taking shots at ‘good athletes with poor style of play and low soccer IQ’ in his email. But when ECNL begins where is all of the high IQ McLean talent then?

That talent is either non existent or has been pushed out of the club already by McLean’s finest, The Honorable JA.


If you’re talking about the 2011s, 2 girls left that had talent. The other two left bc they couldn’t get playing time. And now those same parents are probably getting insecure with the same girls coming for their spots now haha!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ID Session on a weeknight for HS age group, good job McBrave. When kids are already stressed out to the max and feel that missing a session would be the end of it all, they now have to sacrifice HS soccer for it (the only place that seems to treat them with a modicum of respect these days). (By the way, all other respectful clubs (VDA, NVA) have their HS sessions on weekends). I don't need to say no more...

100% The older group had it so late in the evening as well. Doubling up school HS Training and club try out same nights! AND the possibility of being cut! SHIT SHOW!!!

Give it a break. Clubs don’t give a crap about HS sports and, IMO, shouldn’t. Club sports is what gets you into college for soccer.

Comments like this just show you how ignorant parents are to what players want. HS soccer is the one chance that most of these players will ever get to play in front of their friends and take pride in playing for their school. Most of these "elite" players will never play college soccer or pro which has a similar experience. HS soccer is an experience most players love regardless of the level of play. Playing club soccer with screaming annoying parents on the sideline will never be more enjoyable as playing HS. NEVER. This whole drama over ECNL is the result of disconnected parents and club leadership who don't realize they are ruining the essence of the game for the players. MYS leadership should have asked the players what they wanted. I guarantee you that nearly all of them would tell you they would rather keep their coaches regardless of the league they play in. This is why MYS parents are upset. Unfortunately and typical in american culture it's the 1% driving the decisions. How many different leagues do we have to play in before we realize it's not the league that matters. F*ck ECNL. Players have and will continue to get recruited regardless of the "platform" they play in. NCSL, CCL, EDP, USYS NL, NAL, EAL, ECNL, MLSNext, and whatever else they come up with in the future will not (and should not) change the clubs responbiility to it's member to provide the best experiences for their players. How is this merger improving on the experience of the majority it's players. It's not. It's catering the minority and enriching it's staff/leadership - got to pay for LW to have an associate ED to do all her work. Parent's now have to deal with another fee increase to $3200 and pay for new uniforms AGAIN! They just raised fees last year and we are in year one of uniforms. Team fees will be A LOT higher than $500. Bank on that. Who's paying for 2-3 coaches per team plus GK staff to travel to away games and showcases. Parents are. Rosters will be huge to make sure both clubs get players in the team. Good luck with playing time. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. The club lacks core values and this merger is evidence of that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ID Session on a weeknight for HS age group, good job McBrave. When kids are already stressed out to the max and feel that missing a session would be the end of it all, they now have to sacrifice HS soccer for it (the only place that seems to treat them with a modicum of respect these days). (By the way, all other respectful clubs (VDA, NVA) have their HS sessions on weekends). I don't need to say no more...

ID session on Sunday following a weekend of 4 tournament matches. Good job Arlington. Smh, OP

Right. I am very pro-HS soccer, but I do have some sympathy for the clubs for the sh!t timing (ID sessions and Jeff. Cup and other spring tournaments and showcases happening just as the HS season is getting started in NOVA). I don't know when else they can hold spring ID sessions that they won't have conflicts.

The denigration of HS soccer, from parents and some club coaches alike, does drive me more than a little batty. Reeks of the "futbol is life" "beautiful game" snobbery that turns so many of us off.