Anonymous
07/11/2022 23:21
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:All those replies on Jen’s FB stressing their undying love and loyalty before begging her to do better had the ring of gaslit followers. Intuitively they seem to know they can’t directly challenge a narcissist, they have to coax her. First time I’ve ever seen her tribe unanimously stand up to her though. Progress for sure. The emperor has no clothes.
So this exact same thing happened last year during Me Camp, same post, when she talked about how she could get her therapy from anywhere. Several therapists commenting about how terrible Better Help is, as well as pointing out that therapists can't work across state lines where they aren't licensed. I kept waiting for her to reply or address it, but if she did, I missed it. And obviously she went ahead and posted the exact same thing this year, so there weren't any repercussions to stop her from doing it again. But I was also annoyed with all of them starting out, I love you, but...
Anonymous
07/11/2022 21:59
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Wow I just went and looked at that post you guys are talking about and it's amazing that pretty much every comment underneath her newest Facebook post is negative and calling her out. I'm proud of all the followers and I even left a comment myself!! Jen needs to go back and reread her own book "Seven".
Anonymous
07/11/2022 17:50
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
All those replies on Jen’s FB stressing their undying love and loyalty before begging her to do better had the ring of gaslit followers. Intuitively they seem to know they can’t directly challenge a narcissist, they have to coax her. First time I’ve ever seen her tribe unanimously stand up to her though. Progress for sure. The emperor has no clothes.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 17:20
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m trying to figure out who has the means and ability to take month me camp? What demographic would this appeal to as a bona fide option? Wealthy divorc’ empty nester with lots of built up vacation time?
Money talks. Wealth whispers. Trash shills.
She is middle class at best. And while there is nothing wrong with being stuck in the middle with you, I am going to judge anyone who does it by carnival barking exploitative therapy programs, MLM makeup, CBD oil, wine clubs, Fab Fit Fun, Able, day planners, book clubs and anything else that funds mid tier AirBnBs and untoned blonde highlights.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 16:53
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The real world doesn’t seem to have a lot of relevance for online celebrity influencers. When she said one of the benefits of me camp is helping her recenter so she can work better, I thought, “what is her work again?” Is her real work to be out hunting for new sponsors to shill to her tribe, negotiating the highest price for her endorsement? She hasn’t written anything of value in a long time. So what is her work? Getting book club members then hosting exclusive online chats about the content, producing podcasts and coming up with me courses? I suppose her job is marketing, mostly herself but also her sponsors products.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 16:50
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The FTC literally requires that you disclose any social media ads by using hashtags like: #ad #sponsored #partner etc. It’s illegal not to make it clear to your followers that you’re being compensated. In fact, you have to disclose it within the first few lines of the post. So…
1. Who the heck does she think she is?
2. Does she not work with anyone who can tell her these very basic requirements?
This all shows that she truly doesn’t care about her followers, but also that she’s either super sketchy or completely ignorant in yet another area of her everyday life. Get it together!
1. Who the heck does she think she is?
2. Does she not work with anyone who can tell her these very basic requirements?
This all shows that she truly doesn’t care about her followers, but also that she’s either super sketchy or completely ignorant in yet another area of her everyday life. Get it together!
Anonymous
07/11/2022 16:37
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
One weird thing I've noticed is that Jen seems to have decided to stop being a mom?
Not that moms can't have some time to themselves, or that being a mom is 100 pct of your identity? And yes, her kids are older now, but still kids! It's like her life has imploded and she is so over her church life, and now it seems, Mom life. Can you see any room in her plan for taking care of other people? I know the daughter is at camp, but she has a son who is heading to college. What is he up to? It's Jen Jen Jen and Tyler too. I can't see her functioning in the real world anymore, can you?
Not that moms can't have some time to themselves, or that being a mom is 100 pct of your identity? And yes, her kids are older now, but still kids! It's like her life has imploded and she is so over her church life, and now it seems, Mom life. Can you see any room in her plan for taking care of other people? I know the daughter is at camp, but she has a son who is heading to college. What is he up to? It's Jen Jen Jen and Tyler too. I can't see her functioning in the real world anymore, can you?
Anonymous
07/11/2022 16:13
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Was just looking at the Facebook comments and I’m glad folks are calling out Jen but why do so many have to start their comments with “I love you Jen, but…” It’s like they’re afraid not to feed her ego by making sure she knows how loved she is. Bothers me so much!
Anonymous
07/11/2022 15:13
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
When you join the Jen Hatmaker Book Club and the Jen Hatmaker Me Course it sounds like to are buying access to Jen. Is that right? Is this sort of a virtual rent-a-friend?
Anonymous
07/11/2022 15:10
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I guess I’m trying to figure out who has the means and ability to take month me camp? What demographic would this appeal to as a bona fide option? Wealthy divorc’ empty nester with lots of built up vacation time?
Anonymous
07/11/2022 14:59
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Probably just a couple cranky Texans sweating their tails off in extra high triple digit heat. Like record breaking heat. Our energy bills have doubled since last year. Please be kind we are all a little miserable in Texas right now. Oh and those blackouts that we’ve been warned about strike terror.
Meanwhile Jen’s in sweatshirts in the middle of the day enjoying cool weather and gorgeous scenery while her family keeps her plants alive and prepares for blackouts.
But she’s telling me to just go to me camp so I can be the best me for my people. Who is going to care for the children, keep them safe in blackouts, etc. How do I convince my husband I’m not a self centered narcissist if I take our limited finances and head somewhere requiring a flight, rental cars, restaurants, and lodging. All while he’s working virtually and keeping kids alive.
Btw I’d freaking love to be sitting by a northern lake right now, listening to live music and using my man as a human chair. But here in my real world there’s kids to feed and educate, laundry to fold and put away, bills to pay and a marriage to maintain.
Feeling this! I'm in Texas and don't mind the heat as I'm privileged enough to have my own pool and enjoy it very much. But I'm not putting it in peoples' faces either.
I'll be doing my part to conserve electric today to hopefully avoid a blackout situation. We're in an unrelenting heat wave with no end in sight.
Back to Jen - just checked out the comments on her latest post and could not agree more. She is so tone deaf. I'm a mom with many kids and a husband who works out of town all week. I'll admit I'm envious that she gets to just take off for a month and focus on herself. I'm lucky if I get 20 minutes of peace and quiet. Ever. It's nice to dream but somehow with her it feels like a slap in the face. It seems I'm not alone.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 14:59
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Her personality is just shilling now. Her relationship with Tyler is essentially just shilling as well.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 14:15
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Words like: tone deaf, privileged, unscrupulous, out of touch. One said it would have been better to have kept me camp private this year when so many are struggling financially. One just wrote, “stop shilling.” It’s getting real yo in there.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 14:05
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The fb comments are scathing. Think she’s hit a tipping point? She shilled till the whole thing imploded. Folks are waking up and realizing they are being exploited.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 13:51
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Probably just a couple cranky Texans sweating their tails off in extra high triple digit heat. Like record breaking heat. Our energy bills have doubled since last year. Please be kind we are all a little miserable in Texas right now. Oh and those blackouts that we’ve been warned about strike terror.
Meanwhile Jen’s in sweatshirts in the middle of the day enjoying cool weather and gorgeous scenery while her family keeps her plants alive and prepares for blackouts.
But she’s telling me to just go to me camp so I can be the best me for my people. Who is going to care for the children, keep them safe in blackouts, etc. How do I convince my husband I’m not a self centered narcissist if I take our limited finances and head somewhere requiring a flight, rental cars, restaurants, and lodging. All while he’s working virtually and keeping kids alive.
Btw I’d freaking love to be sitting by a northern lake right now, listening to live music and using my man as a human chair. But here in my real world there’s kids to feed and educate, laundry to fold and put away, bills to pay and a marriage to maintain.
Meanwhile Jen’s in sweatshirts in the middle of the day enjoying cool weather and gorgeous scenery while her family keeps her plants alive and prepares for blackouts.
But she’s telling me to just go to me camp so I can be the best me for my people. Who is going to care for the children, keep them safe in blackouts, etc. How do I convince my husband I’m not a self centered narcissist if I take our limited finances and head somewhere requiring a flight, rental cars, restaurants, and lodging. All while he’s working virtually and keeping kids alive.
Btw I’d freaking love to be sitting by a northern lake right now, listening to live music and using my man as a human chair. But here in my real world there’s kids to feed and educate, laundry to fold and put away, bills to pay and a marriage to maintain.