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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.

I looked at the Residential Development Applications Dashboard.

For South Lakes, the county identified (as of August 2025) 16532 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 587 HS students.

For Oakton, the county identified 2200 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 103 HS students.

So the percentage yield was higher at Oakton than at South Lakes, which you'd expect given the housing mixes in the two pyramids, but the total number of additional students for South Lakes was higher because the number of potential new housing units was so much greater.

On the other hand, on a year-over-year basis, Oakton was up 101 kids in November 2025 compared to November 2024, while South Lakes was down 16 over the same period, so there's that.

Marshall and McLean coming in hot with 804 abd 629 HS students projected respectively. Going to have to make some room nearby.

The McLean solution is easy enough if McLean gets overcrowded.

At this point I have no idea how the School Board is going to draw the boundaries for Western because the process is stupidly convoluted. There are people who want to move from some schools and people who don’t want to move from those same schools.

There are schools that don’t seem to have any say in the matter: Oak Hill, McNair, and Coates.

There are schools that might have some ability to influence: Crossfield, Fox Mill, Floris.

I think a large part of Floris moves and is fine with it but I think I have heard that the Floris folks at SLHS might not want to move. Crossfield is very divided between the schools. Fox Mill is divided and Meren doesn’t want Fox Mill moving.

At this point, I can choose to opt-in for my child, which we are doing. We were planning that for a different AP program anyway. I doubt the arguing over who has more buildings going up, how quickly, and what type of families might live in them is going to change anything.

I expect that it will be Oak Hill, McNair, Coates, all of Floris. It will be Crossfield or Fox Mill, I suspect it will be Crossfield because of Meren and not wanting to lose Floris and Fox Mill kids from SLHS to protect test scores.

South Lakes mommy woke up and wrote her daily newsletter.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.

I looked at the Residential Development Applications Dashboard.

For South Lakes, the county identified (as of August 2025) 16532 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 587 HS students.

For Oakton, the county identified 2200 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 103 HS students.

So the percentage yield was higher at Oakton than at South Lakes, which you'd expect given the housing mixes in the two pyramids, but the total number of additional students for South Lakes was higher because the number of potential new housing units was so much greater.

On the other hand, on a year-over-year basis, Oakton was up 101 kids in November 2025 compared to November 2024, while South Lakes was down 16 over the same period, so there's that.

Marshall and McLean coming in hot with 804 abd 629 HS students projected respectively. Going to have to make some room nearby.

The McLean solution is easy enough if McLean gets overcrowded.

At this point I have no idea how the School Board is going to draw the boundaries for Western because the process is stupidly convoluted. There are people who want to move from some schools and people who don’t want to move from those same schools.

There are schools that don’t seem to have any say in the matter: Oak Hill, McNair, and Coates.

There are schools that might have some ability to influence: Crossfield, Fox Mill, Floris.

I think a large part of Floris moves and is fine with it but I think I have heard that the Floris folks at SLHS might not want to move. Crossfield is very divided between the schools. Fox Mill is divided and Meren doesn’t want Fox Mill moving.

At this point, I can choose to opt-in for my child, which we are doing. We were planning that for a different AP program anyway. I doubt the arguing over who has more buildings going up, how quickly, and what type of families might live in them is going to change anything.

I expect that it will be Oak Hill, McNair, Coates, all of Floris. It will be Crossfield or Fox Mill, I suspect it will be Crossfield because of Meren and not wanting to lose Floris and Fox Mill kids from SLHS to protect test scores.

South Lakes mommy woke up and wrote her daily newsletter.

It's not a NIMBY-driven issue, it's a county analysis as to whether a particular area can handle a higher volume of traffic and whether the building's footprint will be consistent with the land use requirements.

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https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

The building should have went through the full review process when it is built. Now it is going through a shortened process that basically affirms that this building did not change substantially from the previous review.

Don't expect a delay, but you never know what NIMBYs are capable of.

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https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

The building should have went through the full review process when it is built. Now it is going through a shortened process that basically affirms that this building did not change substantially from the previous review.

Don't expect a delay, but you never know what NIMBYs are capable of.

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https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

I don't understand the issue with traffic and "more trips." It's basically next to Carson and actually more accessible as the street is off McLearen and wider.

And, how can this be more trips when the students will all be attending schools closer than the ones they attend now?

Agree with comments about the way this has been run. They should have started and set boundaries within short months of the purchase. One of the options presented was quite reasonable. Another one could also work. C and D which left Discovery Square (right next to the facility) at Westfield were, to me, ridiculous.

The RIO complaints are all emotional and subjective and could apply to any group that does not want to move there. Any objective person could see this.

That trip to Oakton is awful from this area.

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https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

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https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.

I looked at the Residential Development Applications Dashboard.

For South Lakes, the county identified (as of August 2025) 16532 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 587 HS students.

For Oakton, the county identified 2200 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 103 HS students.

So the percentage yield was higher at Oakton than at South Lakes, which you'd expect given the housing mixes in the two pyramids, but the total number of additional students for South Lakes was higher because the number of potential new housing units was so much greater.

On the other hand, on a year-over-year basis, Oakton was up 101 kids in November 2025 compared to November 2024, while South Lakes was down 16 over the same period, so there's that.

Marshall and McLean coming in hot with 804 abd 629 HS students projected respectively. Going to have to make some room nearby.

The McLean solution is easy enough if McLean gets overcrowded.

At this point I have no idea how the School Board is going to draw the boundaries for Western because the process is stupidly convoluted. There are people who want to move from some schools and people who don’t want to move from those same schools.

There are schools that don’t seem to have any say in the matter: Oak Hill, McNair, and Coates.

There are schools that might have some ability to influence: Crossfield, Fox Mill, Floris.

I think a large part of Floris moves and is fine with it but I think I have heard that the Floris folks at SLHS might not want to move. Crossfield is very divided between the schools. Fox Mill is divided and Meren doesn’t want Fox Mill moving.

At this point, I can choose to opt-in for my child, which we are doing. We were planning that for a different AP program anyway. I doubt the arguing over who has more buildings going up, how quickly, and what type of families might live in them is going to change anything.

I expect that it will be Oak Hill, McNair, Coates, all of Floris. It will be Crossfield or Fox Mill, I suspect it will be Crossfield because of Meren and not wanting to lose Floris and Fox Mill kids from SLHS to protect test scores.

Anonymous wrote:Could there be a delay? Does anyone know about this process?

https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.

I looked at the Residential Development Applications Dashboard.

For South Lakes, the county identified (as of August 2025) 16532 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 587 HS students.

For Oakton, the county identified 2200 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 103 HS students.

So the percentage yield was higher at Oakton than at South Lakes, which you'd expect given the housing mixes in the two pyramids, but the total number of additional students for South Lakes was higher because the number of potential new housing units was so much greater.

On the other hand, on a year-over-year basis, Oakton was up 101 kids in November 2025 compared to November 2024, while South Lakes was down 16 over the same period, so there's that.

Marshall and McLean coming in hot with 804 abd 629 HS students projected respectively. Going to have to make some room nearby.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.

I looked at the Residential Development Applications Dashboard.

For South Lakes, the county identified (as of August 2025) 16532 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 587 HS students.

For Oakton, the county identified 2200 potential new housing units in various stages of development with a potential yield of 103 HS students.

So the percentage yield was higher at Oakton than at South Lakes, which you'd expect given the housing mixes in the two pyramids, but the total number of additional students for South Lakes was higher because the number of potential new housing units was so much greater.

On the other hand, on a year-over-year basis, Oakton was up 101 kids in November 2025 compared to November 2024, while South Lakes was down 16 over the same period, so there's that.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?

I think the point is that one and two bedroom apartments whose selling point is being close to metro and restaurants/bars aren't the type of housing that is going to put a strain on the school system. The yield of school age students from those housing units will be effectively zero. All of the Oakton developments are in the middle of suburbia and all involve a large portion of townhouses. They might advertise as "mixed use development", but the retail portion of all 5 of the major developments is laughably small. Basically, maybe a small grocery store and a dry cleaner or UPS or Starbucks. Nothing like Reston Town Center or Fairfax Corner.

The student yields from single family homes are higher than the yields from townhouses and the yields from townhouses are higher than the yields from apartments. But if you add enough apartments, particularly with two bedrooms, you can get a significant yield, as evidenced by the growth in enrollment at some elementary schools that feed into Marshall and McLean in FCPS, Meridian in FCCPS, and W-L in APS.

I just don't see many families purchasing in the BLVD or Marriott. Look at the websites. These are for young professionals or empty nesters who want to be close to Metro.

As for the 2100 housing going into the Isaac Newton Square phases--remember the article said it was going to be phased over 20 years.
But, in any case, South Lakes has plenty of room--especially if they quit taking pupil placements.