Anonymous
05/21/2024 12:32
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow that Costello testimony was an absolute disaster for the defense. What were they thinking putting that guy on? Now the jury heard all about the coordinated Trump effort to try to keep Cohen from flipping. Of course, why try to keep a guy who has nothing on you from flipping?
Trump is directing his own defense, and he's the stupidest SOB on the planet. He just is. I'm sure his lawyers are drinking heavily at this point.
His lawyers should have told him at the beginning that Trump could make suggestions but they, as experienced members of the bar, would decide the best way to try his case.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 12:06
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Depends on the jury. I think the prosecution made a pretty good case and Trump's defense was a hot mess. I'm sure he'll appeal if convicted anyway.
What defense? Their whole strategy was to undermine Cohen, but Costello looked more like he was not being fully truthful. Everyone knows that Cohen is untrustworthy, but his story stacks up with the other witness testimony and evidence. Trump's defense was ... no defense.
Costello bolstered cohens credibility. By testifying, the prosecution was able to introduce tons of emails showing he was leading a pressure campaign on trumps behalf to keep cohen from telling authorities about the stormy scheme.
+1. Exactly.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 12:04
Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So your contention is that Cohen lied about paying Daniels but is telling the truth about stealing from Trump?
+1
Which also gets to the payment to Red Finch. That was not legal services. Also a fraudulent act.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:58
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Depends on the jury. I think the prosecution made a pretty good case and Trump's defense was a hot mess. I'm sure he'll appeal if convicted anyway.
What defense? Their whole strategy was to undermine Cohen, but Costello looked more like he was not being fully truthful. Everyone knows that Cohen is untrustworthy, but his story stacks up with the other witness testimony and evidence. Trump's defense was ... no defense.
it only takes one holdout
hopefully they will convict but it only takes one
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:57
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Trump will be found guilty, he will be unsuccessful on his appeal, but that part won't happen until after the election.
+1
I think the paper trail is pretty clear and he will be found guilty. Not sure the judge will sentence any jail time but if he does it will be stayed until after the appeal. All of that is after the election. Unfortunately I don't think a conviction even matters to voters.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:56
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Depends on the jury. I think the prosecution made a pretty good case and Trump's defense was a hot mess. I'm sure he'll appeal if convicted anyway.
What defense? Their whole strategy was to undermine Cohen, but Costello looked more like he was not being fully truthful. Everyone knows that Cohen is untrustworthy, but his story stacks up with the other witness testimony and evidence. Trump's defense was ... no defense.
Costello bolstered cohens credibility. By testifying, the prosecution was able to introduce tons of emails showing he was leading a pressure campaign on trumps behalf to keep cohen from telling authorities about the stormy scheme.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:52
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Depends on the jury. I think the prosecution made a pretty good case and Trump's defense was a hot mess. I'm sure he'll appeal if convicted anyway.
What defense? Their whole strategy was to undermine Cohen, but Costello looked more like he was not being fully truthful. Everyone knows that Cohen is untrustworthy, but his story stacks up with the other witness testimony and evidence. Trump's defense was ... no defense.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:52
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Trump will be found guilty, he will be unsuccessful on his appeal, but that part won't happen until after the election.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:29
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Depends on the jury. I think the prosecution made a pretty good case and Trump's defense was a hot mess. I'm sure he'll appeal if convicted anyway.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:27
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Predictions on verdict? I hate Trump but just think the whole trial was a hot mess. Not guilty.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 11:00
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Wow that Costello testimony was an absolute disaster for the defense. What were they thinking putting that guy on? Now the jury heard all about the coordinated Trump effort to try to keep Cohen from flipping. Of course, why try to keep a guy who has nothing on you from flipping?
Not only that but Costello was the only witness for the defense.
Trump should have plea bargained. Once again proving how terrible he is at negotiating.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 10:52
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Wow that Costello testimony was an absolute disaster for the defense. What were they thinking putting that guy on? Now the jury heard all about the coordinated Trump effort to try to keep Cohen from flipping. Of course, why try to keep a guy who has nothing on you from flipping?
Trump is directing his own defense, and he's the stupidest SOB on the planet. He just is. I'm sure his lawyers are drinking heavily at this point.
Anonymous
05/21/2024 10:44
Subject: Indictment Monday?
Wow that Costello testimony was an absolute disaster for the defense. What were they thinking putting that guy on? Now the jury heard all about the coordinated Trump effort to try to keep Cohen from flipping. Of course, why try to keep a guy who has nothing on you from flipping?
Anonymous
05/21/2024 10:41
Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This judge is a piece of work.
He will not allow testimony from a former FEC chairman about what constitutes campaign contributions but he will allow testimony from a felon and serial liar about what is a legal NDA.
Yet another ground for appeal.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And Trump will appeal because the court was too cold for his fragile bones anyway.
If the jury has been paying attention there will be no need for an appeal. Bragg and company have not identified a crime. In fact the one crimes we have heard about are those committed by Cohen. Including embezzlement
Exactly.
Ha Ha! How do you keep from choking breathing in all that sand?
Anonymous
05/21/2024 10:39
Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Bragg pass on a felony charge on his own witness to go after a misdemeanor?
I seem to recall reading an article indicating that the embezzlement (or grand theft?) statute of limitations expired, which is why Cohen admitted his actions on the stand. While Bragg could have found a way to resurrect those charges, he wouldn't have Cohen as a witness.
How sweet it is that Trump's "fixer" fixed him in more ways than one. Trump must be seething.