Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 12:42     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I love all the women calling Jen out on the tone deafness of her braggy me camp posts and the horrible quality of Better Help.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 12:38     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Beautycounter — predatory MLM model

Betterhelp — predatory therapy model

Pattern?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 12:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Jen started awhile ago she sees her therapist online.

One of her posters questioned the scruples of promoting mental health care if she’s getting a cut and not offering that info. Pretty darn sketchy.

There have been several licensed therapists commenting about her need to vet betterhealth because there are major issues. So far the negative posts are still coming and haven’t been removed on FB.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 12:20     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:So she’s getting online therapy from betterhealth yet she seems more disconnected from reality than ever and seems to have regressed into adolescence. Is her online counselor spotting her almost drugged behavior?
She uses beautycounter but her skin is splotchy and red all the time. What is she doing different that’s causing this odd discoloration, some anti-aging skin treatment gone bad?


I highly doubt Jen got her therapy thru betterhealth. I’m sure she had a office-based practice and therapist who was able to provide real therapy.

Look up betterhealth on Wikipedia and better business bureau (no links cause either can’t or don’t know how on my iPad) They’re sketch as all get out. But Jen, in her ever wanting to share experience, wisdom and advice how to help you because she loves y’all so much either does no research on them or just doesn’t care. It’s just ch-ching, there’s another click.

Also, don’t people have to state a disclaimer if they’re getting paid for promotions? Like the I may receive some income for affiliate links.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 10:37     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Didn’t she say awhile ago her mom had to travel with her because she had high blood pressure? Medicines to treat high blood pressure can cause facial redness. Because she’s red all the time it’s likely a drug she’s consuming daily.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 10:18     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

So she’s getting online therapy from betterhealth yet she seems more disconnected from reality than ever and seems to have regressed into adolescence. Is her online counselor spotting her almost drugged behavior?
She uses beautycounter but her skin is splotchy and red all the time. What is she doing different that’s causing this odd discoloration, some anti-aging skin treatment gone bad?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 08:59     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:And this comes from a place of genuine concern, because I don't enjoy snark about people's health/bodies, etc - Jen is so flushed, all the time, and I'm not sure if she's aware of it? - I really am concerned she has some kind of health issue going on she doesn't know about? Hopefully she does. I also know her current hair color just makes it look way worse - maybe worse than it would otherwise?


I've also been wondering for months why her face is so, so red. I myself have rosacea and burn in minutes even with sunscreen. I'm just naturally pink.

Could it be a medical condition? Too much alcohol? I know my face gets even redder when I drink...
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 08:12     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

It will be interesting and telling to note if her paid staff (does JH have staff?) either remove negative comments or, like a wannabe social media influencer I know does-will no longer allow comments and or comments will be unable to immediately be viewed.

Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 07:58     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Whoa the comments on her better help promoting post are all negative. She must have not been checking them while distracted by Tyler or something cause she usually doesn’t let one get by let alone 28 in a row. Lots of people were like, “I love you but…” they called out the tone deafness of me camp, when very few have the money or the time to indulge in me camp. Then several clinicians were upset at her promoting better help for therapy. Guess the site pays clinicians poorly and the quality is sketch. Lastly some were calling out her promoting all these things to get a cut and they feel she’s being deceptive acting like her recommendations are out of benevolence not her doing business to get a cut.with her links.
Looks like people are starting to wake up and hold her a bit more accountable.


I think those commenters were always there but she and her team are always quick on the delete and block strategy.

I didn’t watch with the sound on because #grating, but did she disclose it was a paid sponsorship? It’s beyond gross to shill therapy to followers for a few dollars. Have some damn scruples.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 07:57     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea how anyone can be genuinely celebrating Brandon and Tina, come ON. I agree with all the shit about Jen and her not actually finding HER PERSON- I was a single divorced mom for ten years and it does take a while. My first boyfriend helped with the healing but man I would NEVER have declared him the one LORD OF MERCY she seems unhinged. But seriously shut up talking to me about how amazing Tina and Brandon are, gross, sick, same thing as Jen and Tyler only make it middle aged man child. Come ON.


Agree! The positive Brandon posts always have me rolling me eyes. No one over 40 who is in a healthy, happy, stable relationship is posting about it with the frequency of Brandon, his GF, or Jen. Tyler is the only one who seems healthy/normal in this regard. I think the Brandon love is just an extension of the Jen hate. The dude is a wannabe biker dud.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 07:34     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:Whoa the comments on her better help promoting post are all negative. She must have not been checking them while distracted by Tyler or something cause she usually doesn’t let one get by let alone 28 in a row. Lots of people were like, “I love you but…” they called out the tone deafness of me camp, when very few have the money or the time to indulge in me camp. Then several clinicians were upset at her promoting better help for therapy. Guess the site pays clinicians poorly and the quality is sketch. Lastly some were calling out her promoting all these things to get a cut and they feel she’s being deceptive acting like her recommendations are out of benevolence not her doing business to get a cut.with her links.
Looks like people are starting to wake up and hold her a bit more accountable.


I think probably most of her followers have been perplexed by the shift to promo codes, but have given her a lot of grace because of the divorce trauma. It seems shilling unethical therapy may be the line for many people. She also keeps saying she’s healed from the divorce trauma, so she may be her own worst enemy. Her audience is having less grace because she’s loudly proclaiming that she doesn’t need it anymore. I wonder if she’ll respond to any of the comments or just delete? There’s probably something in her contract that dictates how she can handle things and still get paid.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 06:49     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Whoa the comments on her better help promoting post are all negative. She must have not been checking them while distracted by Tyler or something cause she usually doesn’t let one get by let alone 28 in a row. Lots of people were like, “I love you but…” they called out the tone deafness of me camp, when very few have the money or the time to indulge in me camp. Then several clinicians were upset at her promoting better help for therapy. Guess the site pays clinicians poorly and the quality is sketch. Lastly some were calling out her promoting all these things to get a cut and they feel she’s being deceptive acting like her recommendations are out of benevolence not her doing business to get a cut.with her links.
Looks like people are starting to wake up and hold her a bit more accountable.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 01:19     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I have no idea how anyone can be genuinely celebrating Brandon and Tina, come ON. I agree with all the shit about Jen and her not actually finding HER PERSON- I was a single divorced mom for ten years and it does take a while. My first boyfriend helped with the healing but man I would NEVER have declared him the one LORD OF MERCY she seems unhinged. But seriously shut up talking to me about how amazing Tina and Brandon are, gross, sick, same thing as Jen and Tyler only make it middle aged man child. Come ON.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2022 21:56     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:I love the comment on Jen’s last Instagram post from a si hole mom who asks how she can have time alone or do “me camp” as a single mom. Jen is too distracted and disconnected from reality to respond to that comment. But most moms don’t have anyone to take their children let alone enough money so they can have “me camp.”


*single mom!!!!!! Sorry for typo
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2022 21:55     Subject: Jen Hatmaker

I love the comment on Jen’s last Instagram post from a si hole mom who asks how she can have time alone or do “me camp” as a single mom. Jen is too distracted and disconnected from reality to respond to that comment. But most moms don’t have anyone to take their children let alone enough money so they can have “me camp.”