Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's anything particularly weird about her friends' behavior. They left her in a public place with a guy she seemed to be into, most likely to hook up. She likely insisted on being left. Was it a bad call in hindsight? Sure. But she's an adult likely saying she wants to stay behind with a guy she had her arm around earlier in the night. What exactly are they supposed to do? I'm sure it seemed safe because he was also a US tourist staying at the resort and they were leaving them out in the open/in public. Probably had the same aura of safety that a college campus does, where this exact same behavior happens every day (i.e., kids go out in groups to drink, eventually a couple or two peels off to hook up).
We don't actually know whether she was supposed to go with them on the day trip, but even assuming she was... they knew she was drunk & with a guy in the wee early hours of the morning (probably only a couple of hours before they went on the excursion). Would they really be shocked when she didn't show? Maybe they had gone home to sleep because of the excursion and when she chose to stay out they assumed she was blowing it off.
As soon as they got back and couldn't find her, they reported her missing.
It would be helpful to know why they had her phone. Did she leave it in her room because it was dead from the power outage or because she didn't want to get it wet/sandy at the beach? Not weird at all. Did she hand it off that evening? Weirder, but still not that weird if it had died.
It has been reported she made a boat Venmo payment so likely supposed to go.
Had Ribe notified the friends at 10am that he was back alone and had not seen her in hours, they likely would have raised the alarm immediately. He knew from CJ that they had texted looking for her.
When in doubt, just head to the boat excursion without Sudiksha and assume she intended to miss the boat trip she paid for? Just assume she’s still with the random drunk dude they just met when you last saw her drunk at the beach at 4am, and all’s cool?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's anything particularly weird about her friends' behavior. They left her in a public place with a guy she seemed to be into, most likely to hook up. She likely insisted on being left. Was it a bad call in hindsight? Sure. But she's an adult likely saying she wants to stay behind with a guy she had her arm around earlier in the night. What exactly are they supposed to do? I'm sure it seemed safe because he was also a US tourist staying at the resort and they were leaving them out in the open/in public. Probably had the same aura of safety that a college campus does, where this exact same behavior happens every day (i.e., kids go out in groups to drink, eventually a couple or two peels off to hook up).
We don't actually know whether she was supposed to go with them on the day trip, but even assuming she was... they knew she was drunk & with a guy in the wee early hours of the morning (probably only a couple of hours before they went on the excursion). Would they really be shocked when she didn't show? Maybe they had gone home to sleep because of the excursion and when she chose to stay out they assumed she was blowing it off.
As soon as they got back and couldn't find her, they reported her missing.
It would be helpful to know why they had her phone. Did she leave it in her room because it was dead from the power outage or because she didn't want to get it wet/sandy at the beach? Not weird at all. Did she hand it off that evening? Weirder, but still not that weird if it had died.
It has been reported she made a boat Venmo payment so likely supposed to go.
Had Ribe notified the friends at 10am that he was back alone and had not seen her in hours, they likely would have raised the alarm immediately. He knew from CJ that they had texted looking for her.
When in doubt, just head to the boat excursion without Sudiksha and assume she intended to miss the boat trip she paid for? Just assume she’s still with the random drunk dude they just met when you last saw her drunk at the beach at 4am, and all’s cool?
Yes indeed. And multiple people have said that, multiple times. They assumed she was with him for a hookup and sleeping off a hangover with him, which is not unusual behavior for drunk college students on spring break. They assumed they’d see her later when they returned.
Wrong. It’s only YOU with all the assumptions and drawing all your own conclusions and attempting to shut down (“shut up”) any conversation otherwise.
Anonymous wrote:her friends were not a suspect and LE had questioned them already. They could have left whenever they wanted.Anonymous wrote:So she went missing on Thursday.
What day did the friends fly back to US?
wow you specialise in generalising an entire country. You must be special and cute. Did you take your meds today?Anonymous wrote:Selfish Indians
her friends were not a suspect and LE had questioned them already. They could have left whenever they wanted.Anonymous wrote:So she went missing on Thursday.
What day did the friends fly back to US?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim
Thus far, there is ZERO evidence that she was a victim of anything but her own poor choices & irresponsible behavior. She was very drunk -to the point of throwing up, and chose to go out on the beach with a strange guy (who was also stumbling drunk and vomiting) and go swimming in the dark on a red flag beach in rough water. In the middle of the night. And in an area that many others have drowned in recently, even in broad daylight.
Did she deserve to lose her life for these irresponsible choices? Of course not! She was young and foolish as so many people are at that age. And we all feel terrible for the family.
There is evidence that she is to blame. However, there is zero evidence that HE is to blame. Does that mean he is innocent? No. But thus far, there is no evidence to suggest guilt or foul play either. And there likely won’t be.
And TBH I am not sure how much more resources need to be spent in searching for someone who exhibited such irresponsible behavior.
. Why is Natalie a victim despite similar circumstances and Sudiksha is not. Ask yourself that question.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim
Thus far, there is ZERO evidence that she was a victim of anything but her own poor choices & irresponsible behavior. She was very drunk -to the point of throwing up, and chose to go out on the beach with a strange guy (who was also stumbling drunk and vomiting) and go swimming in the dark on a red flag beach in rough water. In the middle of the night. And in an area that many others have drowned in recently, even in broad daylight.
Did she deserve to lose her life for these irresponsible choices? Of course not! She was young and foolish as so many people are at that age. And we all feel terrible for the family.
There is evidence that she is to blame. However, there is zero evidence that HE is to blame. Does that mean he is innocent? No. But thus far, there is no evidence to suggest guilt or foul play either. And there likely won’t be.
And TBH I am not sure how much more resources need to be spent in searching for someone who exhibited such irresponsible behavior.
So they left as soon as they didn't see her?
Absolutely! I think LE knows better than that and the keyboard warriors here. They know something that we don’t and they can’t disclose it due to ongoing investigation. They would not have held him otherwise.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.
It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.
Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).
I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.
Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.
I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?
You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.
Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.
Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?
All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.
Why didnt CJ tell anyone she was missing at that point either? Would't both him and Ribe know at the same time she hadn't returned?
They barely knew the girl, and had just met her the night before. It really wasn’t their responsibility. When someone is missing for just a few hours, it is very likely they will turn up. Even if they’d reported it to the hotel (“hey this girl is kind of missing? Haven’t seen her in a few hours. Her name is sudisa or something like that? No, I don’t know her last name. No, I don’t know her room number? Her friends are on a boat excursion and don’t have cell service). You really think the hotel was going to take that seriously or start some type of official search? Especially as reported by guys that are still likely drunk from the night before? I doubt it.
Easy to claim that, we can’t know what the resort would have done because they were not provided with information. Nor were her friends.
It looks suspicious, esp in light of his detailed heroics just hours before.
Had he reported at 10am would look a lot better for him.
YOU don't know what the girls knew, what they reported or what they did. Except have possession of Sudiksha's phone, leave her alone on red flag beach with drunk dude at 5am, go on a tour for the day and then fly home.
We know what Ribe told LE about it. And we know he did not ever report. We know the friends reported at 4 when they got back and she was still missing. Had Ribe or CJ told them Ribe was back alone and had not seen her for hours before that, it likely would have been reported.
Perhaps Ribe thought the longest possible delay would allow her body to float further out and give him time to make up his story. And perhaps hide whatever he was clutching in his pocket that was not a phone or room key.
Wait - the girls reported Sudiksha missing at 4am when they got back from the beach? Well the least the could have done.
4 PM Thursday obviously. They were with her at the 4 AM hour Thursday.
You'd assume they report a friend missing before the rest of them took a day trip, and leaving her alone again, no?
Perhaps you didnt read repeatedly posted comments above. It seems the friends did try to figure out if she may still have been with the guy before they left for the outing. Apparently the young man's friend replied young man (Riibe) hadn't returned. So the friends assumed she may be with him. Maybe they looked around too for her, don't know. When they returned from outing and still didn't see her they reported.
So YOU say. They left her on the beach. They left her to take a daylong boat cruise. They left her on the island and went home. Oh but they did have her phone
+1
Unless the friends thought it was totally normal behavior for this girl to F random guys and not come home. Is that it?
That’s why the girls should have given background info. They would have said there’s no way or they would have had a clue as to her intentions or state of mind. And before incessant pp comes and says “maybe they did” — the point is we’ve heard nothing from them and their pov would be informative if not helpful.
We are hearing about Riibe from his community. There is nothing about Sudiksha from her community, school friends, college friends etc., not just the 5 friends who went on the vacation - where is the outrage? At this point, I have no idea what sort of person she is.
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he is from Iowa this girl is from here community from DC area stand up for her protect her like you would protect your own daughters.
The eye roll was for the bold part on PP. The "I" don't know part. As another PP said, LE dont need to run their findings by that "I" poster.
👍 my comments were for original poster. Her parents are grieving and have lost their world . PP wants a display of public outrage from them. People grieve differently they don’t always put up a show. Same goes for PP talking about social media posts by friends. Get a life. Looks like the parents and her friends have much more class than many posters here.
And imagine, for a moment, if you can, that a random drunk guy, would should have the presumption of innocence without evidence of a crime, has been held for nearly 2 weeks for ”irregular” questioning.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming the victim
Thus far, there is ZERO evidence that she was a victim of anything but her own poor choices & irresponsible behavior. She was very drunk -to the point of throwing up, and chose to go out on the beach with a strange guy (who was also stumbling drunk and vomiting) and go swimming in the dark on a red flag beach in rough water. In the middle of the night. And in an area that many others have drowned in recently, even in broad daylight.
Did she deserve to lose her life for these irresponsible choices? Of course not! She was young and foolish as so many people are at that age. And we all feel terrible for the family.
There is evidence that she is to blame. However, there is zero evidence that HE is to blame. Does that mean he is innocent? No. But thus far, there is no evidence to suggest guilt or foul play either. And there likely won’t be.
?? Are you Riibe. Didn't know you use this site and yay there's power back on at the resort.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's anything particularly weird about her friends' behavior. They left her in a public place with a guy she seemed to be into, most likely to hook up. She likely insisted on being left. Was it a bad call in hindsight? Sure. But she's an adult likely saying she wants to stay behind with a guy she had her arm around earlier in the night. What exactly are they supposed to do? I'm sure it seemed safe because he was also a US tourist staying at the resort and they were leaving them out in the open/in public. Probably had the same aura of safety that a college campus does, where this exact same behavior happens every day (i.e., kids go out in groups to drink, eventually a couple or two peels off to hook up).
We don't actually know whether she was supposed to go with them on the day trip, but even assuming she was... they knew she was drunk & with a guy in the wee early hours of the morning (probably only a couple of hours before they went on the excursion). Would they really be shocked when she didn't show? Maybe they had gone home to sleep because of the excursion and when she chose to stay out they assumed she was blowing it off.
As soon as they got back and couldn't find her, they reported her missing.
It would be helpful to know why they had her phone. Did she leave it in her room because it was dead from the power outage or because she didn't want to get it wet/sandy at the beach? Not weird at all. Did she hand it off that evening? Weirder, but still not that weird if it had died.
It has been reported she made a boat Venmo payment so likely supposed to go.
Had Ribe notified the friends at 10am that he was back alone and had not seen her in hours, they likely would have raised the alarm immediately. He knew from CJ that they had texted looking for her.
When in doubt, just head to the boat excursion without Sudiksha and assume she intended to miss the boat trip she paid for? Just assume she’s still with the random drunk dude they just met when you last saw her drunk at the beach at 4am, and all’s cool?
Yes indeed. And multiple people have said that, multiple times. They assumed she was with him for a hookup and sleeping off a hangover with him, which is not unusual behavior for drunk college students on spring break. They assumed they’d see her later when they returned.
Anonymous wrote:It’s probably the first time she’s ever gotten drunk and she made an awful choice with her beer goggles picking a murderous hillbilly