Anonymous wrote:They have said multiple times that the "pathway" at Skyview will be opt-in, like the program at Edison.
Anonymous wrote:They have said multiple times that the "pathway" at Skyview will be opt-in, like the program at Edison.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DP. I do not envy you Crossfield families knowing that at the next review all the rest of Oakton will be trying to shed your homes as the farthest ones away in hopes of keeping their own in boundary. Not a problem I'd want to buy into if I was currently shopping for a home.
Yep, real life plays out exactly like that...
Anonymous wrote:Its hard to be sympathetic to the people who bought into neighborhoods zoned to Oakton, but wanted to be switched to Skyview, but ended up still at Oakton. You can choose to pupil place into Skyview at any time. Of all the families involved in this s-show, your plight is the least sympathetic.
Anonymous wrote:DP. I do not envy you Crossfield families knowing that at the next review all the rest of Oakton will be trying to shed your homes as the farthest ones away in hopes of keeping their own in boundary. Not a problem I'd want to buy into if I was currently shopping for a home.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember: when Skyview was purchased we were in the midst of a major (we were told) comprehensive boundary review. Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville had all been identified as too crowded. Chantilly was pushing 3000 and Westfield was growing. Centreville, while not as large, was overcapacity.
Langley/Great Falls neighborhoods were screaming to fill Herndon with kids who live farther away than those who live much closer to Herndon. With the purchase of Skyview, their pipedream was destroyed.
This should have been open and shut. As PP said, dragging this out made it so much worse.
The RIO decision really has nothing to do with backfilling Westfield--except for setting the standard for the loudest voices.
Meren is now upset, but Hunter Mill reps have ignored the neighborhoods who do not want IB for years.
Walney Oaks is halfway between Chantilly and Westfield. Objectively, they should be at Westfield.
Chantilly Mews is very close to Chantilly. Objectively, they should stay there.
And, yes, objectively, most of Crossfield should be at Skyview. But, I guess that ship has sailed.
What I would like to know is the FCPS explanation for taking Walney Oaks out of the mx.
McDaniel has given a very weak explanation for why it should stay at Oakton--when his neighborhood is extremely close to South Lakes. (3.3 miles vs 10.3)
His neighborhood is not 10.3 miles from Oakton, try again.
suggest you use googlemaps.
I don't have to use Googlemaps, I live it.
I was told he lives in Money's Corner.
According to google maps, the fastest way to Oakton is currently 10 miles plus. Shortest way is over 7 miles, butmore minutrs. (17 and this is mid day.)
And, if you "live" it, you know that South Lakes is only 3 miles--and 6 minutres.
I hear there is room at South Lakes.
Unfortunately, this counter has come up repeatedly from Crossfield parents who had hoped for and didn't get zoned to Skyview. It implicitly bashes South Lakes which is a perennial sports/ theater powerhouse among many other achievements. I apologize you encountered people who were not able to articulate they wanted to naturally stayed zoned to the school they had hoped for their children for a host of reasons without putting others ones down...each school has its pluses and minuses. Your an argument is a continuation of one frequently posted that states Franklin Farm should go to Skyview and those on the otherside of West Ox should attend South Lakes. This argument ultimately identifies those living closer to Crossfield as being an island rather than a continuation of non-Navy Island and Waples Mills neighborhoods (those furthest from Oakton HS) which are too closer to South Lakes than they are Oakton HS. I know you don't feel a part of that community but there are people and neighborhoods who very much do-the Navy zone starts right down the road from us. I wish you the best and hope there are opportunities for Skyview pupil placement as it really does geographically make sense for some Crossfield families.
Your assumption is incorrect. I am your PP. I am not a Crossfield parent. None of what you said applies to me. But, you might consider looking in a mirror. Not bashing South Lakes. Mcdaniel tried to claim that Oakton is more convenient than Skyview. My point was that South Lakes is most convenient.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember: when Skyview was purchased we were in the midst of a major (we were told) comprehensive boundary review. Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville had all been identified as too crowded. Chantilly was pushing 3000 and Westfield was growing. Centreville, while not as large, was overcapacity.
Langley/Great Falls neighborhoods were screaming to fill Herndon with kids who live farther away than those who live much closer to Herndon. With the purchase of Skyview, their pipedream was destroyed.
This should have been open and shut. As PP said, dragging this out made it so much worse.
The RIO decision really has nothing to do with backfilling Westfield--except for setting the standard for the loudest voices.
Meren is now upset, but Hunter Mill reps have ignored the neighborhoods who do not want IB for years.
Walney Oaks is halfway between Chantilly and Westfield. Objectively, they should be at Westfield.
Chantilly Mews is very close to Chantilly. Objectively, they should stay there.
And, yes, objectively, most of Crossfield should be at Skyview. But, I guess that ship has sailed.
What I would like to know is the FCPS explanation for taking Walney Oaks out of the mx.
McDaniel has given a very weak explanation for why it should stay at Oakton--when his neighborhood is extremely close to South Lakes. (3.3 miles vs 10.3)
His neighborhood is not 10.3 miles from Oakton, try again.
suggest you use googlemaps.
I don't have to use Googlemaps, I live it.
I was told he lives in Money's Corner.
According to google maps, the fastest way to Oakton is currently 10 miles plus. Shortest way is over 7 miles, butmore minutrs. (17 and this is mid day.)
And, if you "live" it, you know that South Lakes is only 3 miles--and 6 minutres.
I hear there is room at South Lakes.
Unfortunately, this counter has come up repeatedly from Crossfield parents who had hoped for and didn't get zoned to Skyview. It implicitly bashes South Lakes which is a perennial sports/ theater powerhouse among many other achievements. I apologize you encountered people who were not able to articulate they wanted to naturally stayed zoned to the school they had hoped for their children for a host of reasons without putting others ones down...each school has its pluses and minuses. Your an argument is a continuation of one frequently posted that states Franklin Farm should go to Skyview and those on the otherside of West Ox should attend South Lakes. This argument ultimately identifies those living closer to Crossfield as being an island rather than a continuation of non-Navy Island and Waples Mills neighborhoods (those furthest from Oakton HS) which are too closer to South Lakes than they are Oakton HS. I know you don't feel a part of that community but there are people and neighborhoods who very much do-the Navy zone starts right down the road from us. I wish you the best and hope there are opportunities for Skyview pupil placement as it really does geographically make sense for some Crossfield families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember: when Skyview was purchased we were in the midst of a major (we were told) comprehensive boundary review. Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville had all been identified as too crowded. Chantilly was pushing 3000 and Westfield was growing. Centreville, while not as large, was overcapacity.
Langley/Great Falls neighborhoods were screaming to fill Herndon with kids who live farther away than those who live much closer to Herndon. With the purchase of Skyview, their pipedream was destroyed.
This should have been open and shut. As PP said, dragging this out made it so much worse.
The RIO decision really has nothing to do with backfilling Westfield--except for setting the standard for the loudest voices.
Meren is now upset, but Hunter Mill reps have ignored the neighborhoods who do not want IB for years.
Walney Oaks is halfway between Chantilly and Westfield. Objectively, they should be at Westfield.
Chantilly Mews is very close to Chantilly. Objectively, they should stay there.
And, yes, objectively, most of Crossfield should be at Skyview. But, I guess that ship has sailed.
What I would like to know is the FCPS explanation for taking Walney Oaks out of the mx.
McDaniel has given a very weak explanation for why it should stay at Oakton--when his neighborhood is extremely close to South Lakes. (3.3 miles vs 10.3)
His neighborhood is not 10.3 miles from Oakton, try again.
suggest you use googlemaps.
I don't have to use Googlemaps, I live it.
I was told he lives in Money's Corner.
According to google maps, the fastest way to Oakton is currently 10 miles plus. Shortest way is over 7 miles, butmore minutrs. (17 and this is mid day.)
And, if you "live" it, you know that South Lakes is only 3 miles--and 6 minutres.
I hear there is room at South Lakes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.
Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.
The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.
You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.
Interesting that this list of smallest schools also includes all the academic have-not schools people are desperate to avoid in FCPS and that FCPS ignores and refuses to improve. They are deliberately moving Westfield from a regular middle of the pack school down to the bottom tier of Avoid at All Cost schools.
If the only thing keeping Westfield in the middle of the pack was all those kids north of 50, then this was inevitable.
There is nothing special about those particular 1000+ kids. Moving back in a similar mix of 500-600 kids would keep Westfield afloat. FCPS is refusing to do that.
Wait til they cave to the Cub Run criers and moves them back to Chantilly at the last minute. That's how this process has been going down. Every time they put a map out, whatever middle class area got moved to Westfield tantrums and gets themselves moved back (except for the low income neighborhoods who are just being used as pawns at this point.)
They are simply following the lead of RIO and Lees Corner.
They may be following RIO, but Lee's Corner is not the same thing. Lee's Corner had extremely valid arguments for staying at Chantilly. It was ridiculous that they were ever thrown into the mix. Their arguments were valid. (An No I do not live in Lee's Corner boundary)
RIO has no valid arguments based on objective standards. Read the comments on their petition. Mostly, "i bought"
I don’t live in RIO area, but I respect their resolve. They are fighting against a boundary change that they don’t want their kids to endure. Good on them to fight for their community.
The problem is not RIO. The problem is FCPS caving to them over other neighborhoods.
This is why FCPS shouldn’t be making large changes to communities unless absolutely necessary. They inevitably end up picking winners and losers with those moves and alienating families in the process.
There is no way to buy a new high school and not make large changes to communities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.
Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.
The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.
You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.
Interesting that this list of smallest schools also includes all the academic have-not schools people are desperate to avoid in FCPS and that FCPS ignores and refuses to improve. They are deliberately moving Westfield from a regular middle of the pack school down to the bottom tier of Avoid at All Cost schools.
If the only thing keeping Westfield in the middle of the pack was all those kids north of 50, then this was inevitable.
There is nothing special about those particular 1000+ kids. Moving back in a similar mix of 500-600 kids would keep Westfield afloat. FCPS is refusing to do that.
Wait til they cave to the Cub Run criers and moves them back to Chantilly at the last minute. That's how this process has been going down. Every time they put a map out, whatever middle class area got moved to Westfield tantrums and gets themselves moved back (except for the low income neighborhoods who are just being used as pawns at this point.)
They are simply following the lead of RIO and Lees Corner.
They may be following RIO, but Lee's Corner is not the same thing. Lee's Corner had extremely valid arguments for staying at Chantilly. It was ridiculous that they were ever thrown into the mix. Their arguments were valid. (An No I do not live in Lee's Corner boundary)
RIO has no valid arguments based on objective standards. Read the comments on their petition. Mostly, "i bought"
I don’t live in RIO area, but I respect their resolve. They are fighting against a boundary change that they don’t want their kids to endure. Good on them to fight for their community.
The problem is not RIO. The problem is FCPS caving to them over other neighborhoods.
This is why FCPS shouldn’t be making large changes to communities unless absolutely necessary. They inevitably end up picking winners and losers with those moves and alienating families in the process.
There is no way to buy a new high school and not make large changes to communities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember: when Skyview was purchased we were in the midst of a major (we were told) comprehensive boundary review. Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville had all been identified as too crowded. Chantilly was pushing 3000 and Westfield was growing. Centreville, while not as large, was overcapacity.
Langley/Great Falls neighborhoods were screaming to fill Herndon with kids who live farther away than those who live much closer to Herndon. With the purchase of Skyview, their pipedream was destroyed.
This should have been open and shut. As PP said, dragging this out made it so much worse.
The RIO decision really has nothing to do with backfilling Westfield--except for setting the standard for the loudest voices.
Meren is now upset, but Hunter Mill reps have ignored the neighborhoods who do not want IB for years.
Walney Oaks is halfway between Chantilly and Westfield. Objectively, they should be at Westfield.
Chantilly Mews is very close to Chantilly. Objectively, they should stay there.
And, yes, objectively, most of Crossfield should be at Skyview. But, I guess that ship has sailed.
What I would like to know is the FCPS explanation for taking Walney Oaks out of the mx.
McDaniel has given a very weak explanation for why it should stay at Oakton--when his neighborhood is extremely close to South Lakes. (3.3 miles vs 10.3)
His neighborhood is not 10.3 miles from Oakton, try again.
suggest you use googlemaps.
I don't have to use Googlemaps, I live it.