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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But the whole point of this thread is that DCI grads ARE getting into schools like UCal Berkeley. (Not sure if any are going there specifically, but there were many Ivy acceptances)

. Different bars to clear in admissions for low SES minority students and UMC white and Asian students. We’re not drinking the DCI Kool Aid. Reality sucks.

You’re kind of a jerk, anyone ever tell you that?

Who are you calling a jerk? I grew up a low SES minority student. I never had any illusions that I arrived at college (an Ivy) with anywhere near the academics of many if not most of my classmates. My family couldn't afford enrichment summer programs SAT prep classes, tutors, extra-curriculars not offered at my school for free etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But the whole point of this thread is that DCI grads ARE getting into schools like UCal Berkeley. (Not sure if any are going there specifically, but there were many Ivy acceptances)

. Different bars to clear in admissions for low SES minority students and UMC white and Asian students. We’re not drinking the DCI Kool Aid. Reality sucks.

You’re kind of a jerk, anyone ever tell you that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But the whole point of this thread is that DCI grads ARE getting into schools like UCal Berkeley. (Not sure if any are going there specifically, but there were many Ivy acceptances)

. Different bars to clear in admissions for low SES minority students and UMC white and Asian students. We’re not drinking the DCI Kool Aid. Reality sucks.

Whatever makes you feel better.

Anonymous wrote:But the whole point of this thread is that DCI grads ARE getting into schools like UCal Berkeley. (Not sure if any are going there specifically, but there were many Ivy acceptances)

. Different bars to clear in admissions for low SES minority students and UMC white and Asian students. We’re not drinking the DCI Kool Aid. Reality sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great, but Berkeley etc. wants around 38 points on IB Diploma more than abundance of empathy, diversity etc. I wouldn’t kid myself that HL IBD English classes with kids who need remedial work are going to cut it. Not when the curriculum comes from Switzerland.

Wouldn't kids who need "remedial" work, according to your description, be in the Standard Level class? They won't be taking the Higher Level English class.

I would think so too. kids are all not taking the same level IB courses in high school. There are standard and there are HL.

Just like kids are doing different tracks with CP and IB.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great, but Berkeley etc. wants around 38 points on IB Diploma more than abundance of empathy, diversity etc. I wouldn’t kid myself that HL IBD English classes with kids who need remedial work are going to cut it. Not when the curriculum comes from Switzerland.

Wouldn't kids who need "remedial" work, according to your description, be in the Standard Level class? They won't be taking the Higher Level English class.

I would think so too. kids are all not taking the same level IB courses in high school. There are standard and there are HL.

Anonymous wrote:Great, but Berkeley etc. wants around 38 points on IB Diploma more than abundance of empathy, diversity etc. I wouldn’t kid myself that HL IBD English classes with kids who need remedial work are going to cut it. Not when the curriculum comes from Switzerland.

Wouldn't kids who need "remedial" work, according to your description, be in the Standard Level class? They won't be taking the Higher Level English class.

But the whole point of this thread is that DCI grads ARE getting into schools like UCal Berkeley. (Not sure if any are going there specifically, but there were many Ivy acceptances)

Great, but Berkeley etc. wants around 38 points on IB Diploma more than abundance of empathy, diversity etc. I wouldn’t kid myself that HL IBD English classes with kids who need remedial work are going to cut it. Not when the curriculum comes from Switzerland.

I'm a DCI parent, and am kind of learning as I go how to make sure the school works for my kid, and I think that's fine. My kid didn't have very strong prep from their feeder charter school, imo, but they have grown and hit their stride at DCI. According to the STAMP test results, they are already at a level to earn the biliteracy seal in their immersion language. Now that they are performing well, they'll be taking a third language and will skip a year in math. This is challenging enough for them now, in middle school.

The high school is so new -- this is only the second class of graduates -- but I'm optimistic that the IB structure will provide enough challenges. And for the classes with kids at different skill levels from across the city... I think that's given my kid important perspective that makes them more empathetic and better prepared for the real world.

Also, McGill

Parents don’t care. They hear grads getting into Yale and Diploma = more rigor than AP and think, good enough, I don’t need to know more.

I'm under the impression that very few DCI parents earned an ib diploma, or even took any subject tests. They're generally not the kind of parents who graduated from international schools abroad or attended private of public schools offering the diploma in this country in the 80s and 90s. The number of US diploma programs is now triple what is was when most of these parents were in high school. DCI parents learn the basics about earning the diploma, mostly from admins, but don't have a good feel for what sort of preparation goes into scoring in the 30s, or the value of scoring high (e.g. average points total for successful out of state applicants at UC Berkeley is around 38). They also don't tend to know that it's common for American diploma students to double up on AP exams offered in ib subjects, so applicants have a bunch of subject exams scores to submit when applying to colleges. If you're shooting for IB diploma at DCI as an umc family, I'd do my own research. I'd also talk to other parents and people in their 20s and 30s who earned the diploma. Relying on DCI admins to tell you about diploma studies isn't going to be nearly enough.

DCI can't be aiming very high on IB results with higher level diploma English with this approach.

Admins and boosters aren't taking the demands of the intl curriculum seriously enough. Nothing could be plainer.

What a joke. IB Diploma Higher Level English is supposed to be even more challenging than AP English lit, a course for the most advanced juniors and seniors, not those needing remediation.