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Anonymous wrote:Some of you have got to be lying about your weight. I don’t understand how many people here allegedly have a BMI under 20 if the average American woman is obese.

How are there so many 5’8/120 or 5’4/110 lb people? Where are you all hiding? I don’t see that many people who look significantly thinner than me walking around. I’m 5’4-5’5, around 120, and I honestly could not find 10 pounds on me to lose. I have a 25 inch waist and a six pack, visible ribs and a thigh gap. No cellulite. You can see my veins on my arm muscles and all the definition on my legs. I could not be in better shape unless I trained with professional athletes or something. I have 17% body fat. How are there all these women apparently who weigh that much less than me? Do you all have no muscles at all?

I think people just carry their weight differently. You don’t see many people looking significantly thinner than you walking around maybe because they look similar to you but just weigh less. Not all sub-20 BMI people look emaciated. I am 5’7” and around 112 lbs, 25-inch waist, thigh gap, but wouldn’t say my ribs are visible or have a six-pack (working on that). Can’t see veins on my arms, but they and my legs are defined. Sure, my weight seems low, but I really don’t look skeletal at all. I do cardio and weights every day and eat a good amount of healthy foods and desserts too.

OK, that could be true. I'm 5'2" 120# have a thigh gap, my ribs are visible, 27 inch waist, my arm veins are very visible. I obviously don't look skeletal.

What does "my ribs are visible" mean?

DP-seems self-explanatory to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you have got to be lying about your weight. I don’t understand how many people here allegedly have a BMI under 20 if the average American woman is obese.

How are there so many 5’8/120 or 5’4/110 lb people? Where are you all hiding? I don’t see that many people who look significantly thinner than me walking around. I’m 5’4-5’5, around 120, and I honestly could not find 10 pounds on me to lose. I have a 25 inch waist and a six pack, visible ribs and a thigh gap. No cellulite. You can see my veins on my arm muscles and all the definition on my legs. I could not be in better shape unless I trained with professional athletes or something. I have 17% body fat. How are there all these women apparently who weigh that much less than me? Do you all have no muscles at all?

I think people just carry their weight differently. You don’t see many people looking significantly thinner than you walking around maybe because they look similar to you but just weigh less. Not all sub-20 BMI people look emaciated. I am 5’7” and around 112 lbs, 25-inch waist, thigh gap, but wouldn’t say my ribs are visible or have a six-pack (working on that). Can’t see veins on my arms, but they and my legs are defined. Sure, my weight seems low, but I really don’t look skeletal at all. I do cardio and weights every day and eat a good amount of healthy foods and desserts too.

OK, that could be true. I'm 5'2" 120# have a thigh gap, my ribs are visible, 27 inch waist, my arm veins are very visible. I obviously don't look skeletal.

What does "my ribs are visible" mean?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you have got to be lying about your weight. I don’t understand how many people here allegedly have a BMI under 20 if the average American woman is obese.

How are there so many 5’8/120 or 5’4/110 lb people? Where are you all hiding? I don’t see that many people who look significantly thinner than me walking around. I’m 5’4-5’5, around 120, and I honestly could not find 10 pounds on me to lose. I have a 25 inch waist and a six pack, visible ribs and a thigh gap. No cellulite. You can see my veins on my arm muscles and all the definition on my legs. I could not be in better shape unless I trained with professional athletes or something. I have 17% body fat. How are there all these women apparently who weigh that much less than me? Do you all have no muscles at all?

I think people just carry their weight differently. You don’t see many people looking significantly thinner than you walking around maybe because they look similar to you but just weigh less. Not all sub-20 BMI people look emaciated. I am 5’7” and around 112 lbs, 25-inch waist, thigh gap, but wouldn’t say my ribs are visible or have a six-pack (working on that). Can’t see veins on my arms, but they and my legs are defined. Sure, my weight seems low, but I really don’t look skeletal at all. I do cardio and weights every day and eat a good amount of healthy foods and desserts too.

OK, that could be true. I'm 5'2" 120# have a thigh gap, my ribs are visible, 27 inch waist, my arm veins are very visible. I obviously don't look skeletal.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant.

I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress).

I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison.

So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this:

Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions.

But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able.

I agree with the bolded. The problem is there are a lot of people who don’t focus on nourishing their bodies, being healthy, or strong. They eat Cheetos for lunch, feed their children Cheetos and McNuggets, and smoke and lead a sedentary lifestyle. Or there are people who starve themselves and it becomes life-threatening. There are also 300 lb people who hang out with other 300 lb people and their 300 lb spouses and celebrate their life with shots, beers, greasy foods, and cakes. They don’t want to lose weight and love their Instagram worthy lifestyle. If they even made the day to day effort of taking one step more than the day before, or have one less cookie, then I would be proud of them for taking forward steps (the first of which are the hardest). But they don’t.

Do you actually know these people, or are you just making generalizations?

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant.

I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress).

I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison.

So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this:

Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions.

But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able.

I agree with the bolded. The problem is there are a lot of people who don’t focus on nourishing their bodies, being healthy, or strong. They eat Cheetos for lunch, feed their children Cheetos and McNuggets, and smoke and lead a sedentary lifestyle. Or there are people who starve themselves and it becomes life-threatening. There are also 300 lb people who hang out with other 300 lb people and their 300 lb spouses and celebrate their life with shots, beers, greasy foods, and cakes. They don’t want to lose weight and love their Instagram worthy lifestyle. If they even made the day to day effort of taking one step more than the day before, or have one less cookie, then I would be proud of them for taking forward steps (the first of which are the hardest). But they don’t.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant.

I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress).

I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison.

So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this:

Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions.

But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able.

Anonymous wrote:Lol I weigh 190 lbs and have a thigh gap. All that hiking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant.

I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress).

I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison.

So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this:

Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions.

But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant.

I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress).

I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison.

So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this:

Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions.

But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you have got to be lying about your weight. I don’t understand how many people here allegedly have a BMI under 20 if the average American woman is obese.

How are there so many 5’8/120 or 5’4/110 lb people? Where are you all hiding? I don’t see that many people who look significantly thinner than me walking around. I’m 5’4-5’5, around 120, and I honestly could not find 10 pounds on me to lose. I have a 25 inch waist and a six pack, visible ribs and a thigh gap. No cellulite. You can see my veins on my arm muscles and all the definition on my legs. I could not be in better shape unless I trained with professional athletes or something. I have 17% body fat. How are there all these women apparently who weigh that much less than me? Do you all have no muscles at all?

I think people just carry their weight differently. You don’t see many people looking significantly thinner than you walking around maybe because they look similar to you but just weigh less. Not all sub-20 BMI people look emaciated. I am 5’7” and around 112 lbs, 25-inch waist, thigh gap, but wouldn’t say my ribs are visible or have a six-pack (working on that). Can’t see veins on my arms, but they and my legs are defined. Sure, my weight seems low, but I really don’t look skeletal at all. I do cardio and weights every day and eat a good amount of healthy foods and desserts too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'm gonna chime in as a low-brow caveman.

But forget the chic skinny-minnie look, and start squatting.

This is obvious to you, this is obvious to me, but no one wants to hear it.

I fully realize we've hijacked this thread as men. But the reality is:

Woman that lift weights are way sexier than woman that starve themselves

I eat really healthy and workout. I’m normal looking. I want that super skinny Kate Middleton look. How do you achieve it?